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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Of course! However, sometime in the last 24 hours we passed the 2 million map changes point – and 1800+ mappers, and giving individual feedback is one grand challenge – getting that data in a ‘very useful’ state is another.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’ll just quickly plug that the name of our Validation Activator role course is “<a href="http://courses.hotosm.org/course/view.php?id=11">HOT Validation: Fixing the data and Mappers</a>”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Also, we’ve been at it over a week now; make sure to take breaks and if you need ‘back-up’, let us know.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>=Russ<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> hyances@gmail.com [mailto:hyances@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 24, 2016 11:57 AM<br><b>To:</b> john whelan<br><b>Cc:</b> HOT<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>John, <o:p></o:p></p><p>I feel you are right with your point to coaching mappers, a way to do this is through comments in the task. For lucky or common practice, must of Mapathons has been carry out with students. I will share with Telegram chats about this idea to do the following. <o:p></o:p></p><p>Principal validations focus is on the ways and his state. <o:p></o:p></p><p>Thanks, <o:p></o:p></p><p>Humberto Yances <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>El abr. 24, 2016 12:38 PM, "john whelan" <<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>I think whilst mass validation can be appropiate sometimes such as in Ecuador at the moment I think what we lose from it is immediate feedback to an individual mapper which I think means less clean up to do afterwards.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Cheerio John<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 24 April 2016 at 12:09, Russell Deffner <<a href="mailto:russell.deffner@hotosm.org" target="_blank">russell.deffner@hotosm.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks Nama, just trying to herd :)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>=Russ</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nama.budhathoki [mailto:<a href="mailto:namabudhathoki@gmail.com" target="_blank">namabudhathoki@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 24, 2016 10:06 AM<br><b>To:</b> Russell Deffner; 'Blake Girardot HOT/OSM'; 'John Whelan'; Megha Shrestha</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">hot@openstreetmap.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi Russell,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Megha and couple of others from KLL are already in Trello. They will be happy to contribute on validation.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Nama<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#575757'>Sent from my Samsung device</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Russell Deffner <<a href="mailto:russell.deffner@hotosm.org" target="_blank">russell.deffner@hotosm.org</a>> <br>Date: 24/04/2016 20:40 (GMT+05:45) <br>To: 'Blake Girardot HOT/OSM' <<a href="mailto:blake.girardot@hotosm.org" target="_blank">blake.girardot@hotosm.org</a>>, 'John Whelan' <<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>> <br>Cc: <a href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">hot@openstreetmap.org</a> <br>Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation <br><br>Hi Blake and John,<br><br>I'll add to Humberto, we'll have a few staff in the HOT Indonesia office (tonight/their morning). We also have a standing offer from KLL to have some staffers focus on validation. These are great ideas, I don't want to lose them, so can we get them onto the Trello? Then once we've identified who, we can assign whats...<br>=Russ<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Blake Girardot HOT/OSM [<a href="mailto:blake.girardot@hotosm.org" target="_blank">mailto:blake.girardot@hotosm.org</a>] <br>Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 8:46 AM<br>To: John Whelan<br>Cc: <a href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">hot@openstreetmap.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation<br><br>Hi John,<br><br>Given that we are spending a lot of times on roads, getting road<br>networks correct is pretty vital.<br><br>Has anyone looked at using existing OSM tools, outside of the Tasking<br>Manager to do large scale road network validation?<br><br>The one that comes to mind is GeoFabrik's OSM Inspector:<br><br><a href="http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/" target="_blank">http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/</a><br><br>Which even has a 'routing' selection in the pop down to focus on<br>problems that affect routing.<br><br>Are there other tools that would help with this?<br><br>Could we map roulette getting roads that end near each other connected properly?<br><br>Cheers,<br>Blake<br><br>----------------------------------------------------<br>Blake Girardot<br>Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team<br>Vice President, HOT Board of Directors<br>skype: jblakegirardot<br>HOT Core Team Contact: <a href="mailto:info@hotosm.org" target="_blank">info@hotosm.org</a><br><br><br>On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 3:51 PM, John Whelan <<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> I'm seeing projects archived fairly quickly without validation.<br>><br>> Of the validation I have done I've seen crossing ways and highways almost<br>> meeting on a project that was supposed to be Highways only for experienced<br>> JOSM users.<br>><br>> JOSM validation should have highlighted these errors before uploading.<br>><br>> I won't bother to mention the other problems I've seen but I assume some<br>> thought has been given to the matter?<br>><br>> Thanks John<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> HOT mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">HOT@openstreetmap.org</a><br>> <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot</a><br>><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>HOT mailing list<br><a href="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">HOT@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>HOT mailing list<br><a href="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">HOT@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>HOT mailing list<br><a href="mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org">HOT@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>