<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">>Good question. I can answer how I found resources but I don't think I'm the typical case.<br><br></div>Well perhaps you are. People who take the time to search out the information in general retain it better.<br><br>Working on the premise that prevention is usually cheaper than the cure.<br><br>I think we have to start with what are the requirements.<br><br>Most end users like the idea of reliability so to them data quality matters. To most of the NGOs small tracks leading to fields are not important but paths / roads leading to a village however small are but we don’t tell the new mappers that. A feedback video from someone who uses the maps in the field would be helpful for a framework.<br><br>Given the uneven quality of our mappers I think the best we can hope for on highways is there is one there. The tertiary and above almost certainly will get tagged or retagged locally if we get it wrong, and if the mapper is good enough to follow the local guidelines that is a bonus. <br><br>For new mappers the quality of the image is very important. To learn good quality images are much better than washed out ones or ones with low contrast between huts and vegetation. For new people running a maperthon perhaps we need some prepacked maperthon projects?<br><br>Small mini projects so doable, small tiles so edits don’t get lost and mappers get a sense of achievement when they complete a tile. Simple tasks, map buildings when the new iD building tool is available, draw in highways between settlements. I’d go so far as to suggest a relevant video that showed a completed tile to show what is required. Then how to map the individual tasks within the tile and a video showing how to map a highway in the UK isn’t that helpful when looking at African villages. The videos can be .mp4 format so fit on a USB stick to save Internet bandwidth, a laptop with a hot spot can be used to wiki broadcast them to the new mappers.<br><br>Cheerio John</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 July 2016 at 00:11, Laura O'Grady <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:laura@lauraogrady.ca" target="_blank">laura@lauraogrady.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div></div><div>Good question. I can answer how I found resources but I don't think I'm the typical case.</div><div><br></div><div>What's your target audience(s) and what known channels of communication are available to these group(s)?</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Jul 11, 2016, at 12:06 AM, Heather Leson <<a href="mailto:heatherleson@gmail.com" target="_blank">heatherleson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr">Great. How can we expand it's use?</p>
<p dir="ltr">Heather</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 11 Jul 2016 07:04, "Laura O'Grady" <<a href="mailto:laura@lauraogrady.ca" target="_blank">laura@lauraogrady.ca</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div></div><div>This is what I've been using as a reference.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data</a></div><div><br>On Jul 11, 2016, at 12:00 AM, Heather Leson <<a href="mailto:heatherleson@gmail.com" target="_blank">heatherleson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr">Has anyone written a guide to validation? I dont recall seeing it. This might help in a few ways:</p>
<p dir="ltr">1. Documenting knowledge<br>
2. Advancing process<br>
3. Talking points for those running mapathons<br>
4. Diagrams of a "validated edit" vs "needs rework"</p>
<p dir="ltr">Heather</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 10 Jul 2016 21:52, "Dan Joseph" <<a href="mailto:dan.b.joseph@gmail.com" target="_blank">dan.b.joseph@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Is this in areas with dense structures and instead of trying to trace each building the mapper has just traced around the entire group? Or the mapper has just incorrectly used the building key when they should use the landuse key? If the area is particularly large I would think the JOSM validation process might flag the issue via a 'building inside building' error or some sort of features overlapping/crossing error. <div><br></div><div>If multiple mappers from the same mapathon make the mistake, it may be productive to reach out to the mapathon organizer and ask them to spend a little more time at their next event going over how to map buildings and tag them correctly.</div><div><br></div><div>While some mapathon mappers do only map once and never again. Mapathons are a great way to introduce people to OSM and also result in long-term contributors.</div><div><br></div><div>All the best,</div><div>Dan </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 2:48 PM, john whelan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">When validating I'm seeing number of cases when building=yes, residential or house is used to tag landuse=residential.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Going through a to-do list and checking every building doesn't cut it for me.</p>
<p dir="ltr">In general these are maperthon mappers of the type I call disposable mappers so leaving feedback really doesn't work. They map once and that's about it.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Any suggestions on how to catch them. I have noticed that building=residential is often used in this way. Having smaller tiles helps as you get fewer mappers completing the tiles and once I spot one by a particular mapper then I can roll out the to-do list plugin.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Thanks John</p>
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