<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480345892170_974213" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480345892170_974219">Hey all, please dampen down the conspiracy theories, personal bitterness and politics. There are ways to ask questions with out being damning, and to share perspectives without lowering ourselves to populist rhetoric and smearing. Let’s try better. The etiquette page on the wiki is a good read to get our conversations on the right footing http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Etiquette. </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480345892170_974213" dir="ltr"><span>Thanks </span>-Mikel</div><div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480345892170_974295"> </div><div class="signature" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1480345892170_974294">* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Thursday, December 1, 2016 8:39 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0112@gmail.com> wrote:<br></font></div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv4920890418"><div><div dir="ltr">One of the problems with giving aid is only about a tenth of the money given is used in the way one would hope.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Probably the most pressing problem in Africa at the moment is corruption and in many ways aid doesn't help this particular problem.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Mapping in OSM is way to assist without fear that the funds will be diverted.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Money given by government agencies stands a little more chance that the aid will get through although there is always the temptation to say it must be shipped on ships from the donor country or must be spent on goods from the donor country.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Given that HOT Inc exists in the US and given the USA culture, who else could elect Donald, I think we can expect them to present themselves in this manner.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Whilst I would hope that requirements and benefits can be presented I'm not sure that this is in the US tradition. Given the attention span of the target audience again is it worth the effort to HOT Inc? Should the message have been restricted to those with a US address?</div>
<div dir="ltr">If I'm cynical then the task manager has been very effective. The training group has identified problem areas and come up with solutions. However HOT is not just HOT Inc there are many people involved in creating maps and the tools used. Germany is home to many of them. The OSM wiki contains much wisdom, the page I'm thinking of was put together by a Canadian, well a Québécois which is practically the same.</div>
<div dir="ltr">I'd like to see two slots on the most urgent slots in tasks reserved for projects that are run by OSM groups in affected areas to give some sort of recognition to the work they are doing. If nothing else they're learning project management skills that they can apply elsewhere.</div>
<div dir="ltr">In sum HOT Inc probably deserves some support but on transparency I think it could do better.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Cheerio John</div>
<div class="yiv4920890418gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv4920890418yqt9312010100" id="yiv4920890418yqtfd10002"><div class="yiv4920890418gmail_quote">On 1 Dec 2016 7:16 pm, "Severin Menard" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:severin.menard@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:severin.menard@gmail.com">severin.menard@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv4920890418gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">
<div lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:100%;">Let us
figure out what is happening here:</div>
<div lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:100%;">
</div>
<div lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:100%;">HOT US
Inc starts a micro-grant program supposedly to support 10 local OSM
communities worldwide by raising money. Some of them being already
HOT-Sponsored through grants, others being totally autonomous from
HOT US Inc. Looks great. Micro-grants are not HOT US Inc speciality
as it has been refusing from 2013 to deal with projects under 10,000
USD grants, what may explain why it is not clear at all how the money
from these smaller grants will be used: who decides how to split, if
the 10 communities will all receive a tenth of it or if it is related
to their requirements (if only HOT US Inc took the time to ask them),
if the communities will receive all the money in cash or if HOT US
Inc will proceed to purchases, etc. OK, it is totally
unclear/unexplained, but damn let us donate, this a good cause!</div>
<div lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:100%;">
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<div lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:100%;">But if
you read the explanation text you can read this: “<i>When donating,
you have the choice of where your funds go: to micro-grants or where
they're needed most to support HOT's critical work and technology</i>”.
What? The first time this 1 million dollar organization (according to
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://hotosm.org/sites/default/files/HOT_2015_Annual_Report.pdf">https://hotosm.org/sites/ default/files/HOT_2015_Annual_ Report.pdf</a>)
raises money specifically for far less funded local OSM communities,
it really needs to suggest to take money from them?
</div>
<div lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:100%;">I don’t
know if HOT US Inc needs fund-raising again to fix a new unexpected,
mismanaged 100,000+ USD financial hole like last year without
explaining it to the donors (or even its voting members) forgetting
that the O of HOT is for Open, but this is certainly not the right
way to do it here.</div>
<div lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:100%;">
</div>
<div lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:100%;">Even
better, all the people participating in the video have been
automatically called “HOT community leaders”. Ladies and gents,
you belong to the HOT US Inc brand now, just because you showed up in
the video. From my long experience with HOT US Inc, I can tell you
that this wording will be next used in every, every grant HOT US Inc
will try to get in the future, emphasizing this community support in
its storytelling. In short, for the 1 USD you may get from HOT US Inc
through this micro-grants program, aside from the 1 USD it will
directly keep, HOT US Inc will multiply this in the future for its
very own use.
</div>
<div lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:100%;">
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<div lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:100%;">Do not
be surprised, this is not the first time HOT US Inc takes over the work
from others. For the last two years or so, everyone using the HOT US Inc
Tasking Manager instance becomes instantaneously a “HOT volunteer”,
even if she or he does not even know what HOT is, and included in HOT
US Inc statistics. People contributing in OSM with the iD editor are
not “MapBox volunteers”, as long as I know. Nor book authors
using Microsoft Word to draft their new work are “MS writers”. A
basic OpenStreetMap rule that the HOT US Inc Board should read and
think about during one of their (non public - always) meetings:
respect attribution.</div><div lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:100%;">OSM
local communities, HOT US Inc needs you to get money from you. But
you do not need HOT US Inc to get money to grow your activities.
Rather than having ten seconds in this video, build your own
fund-raising, take time to present your community, its history,
achievements and goals and describe precisely what you need and want
to get. You will likely get more funds and nobody will make financial
profit from you. <br clear="none"></div><div lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:100%;"><br clear="none"></div>Sincerely,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
<div lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:100%;">Severin<br clear="none">
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</div><div class="yiv4920890418gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv4920890418gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Tyler Radford <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tyler.radford@hotosm.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:tyler.radford@hotosm.org">tyler.radford@hotosm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv4920890418gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv4920890418gmail_quote">Dear HOT community,</div><div class="yiv4920890418gmail_quote"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv4920890418gmail_quote">Today, on behalf of the HOT Fundraising Working Group, I'm excited to announce our 2016 campaign #mapthedifference.</div><div class="yiv4920890418gmail_quote"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv4920890418gmail_quote">This year's campaign is about coming together to raise funds for a micro-grants initiative. Micro-grants will support small but highly impactful projects carried out by HOT/OSM community leaders. More details on the application and selection process will be announced in early 2017, but until then, please check out the video below and help us #mapthedifference!</div><div class="yiv4920890418gmail_quote"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv4920890418gmail_quote">Tyler</div><div class="yiv4920890418gmail_quote"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv4920890418gmail_quote"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><u></u>
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