<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487774768871_206532">See comments that I made today for the Matthew disaster response.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487774768871_206556"><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2017-February/013021.html" class="" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487774768871_206555">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2017-February/013021.html</a><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487774768871_206564"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487774768871_206608" dir="ltr">This applies also to road tagging. Instructions in the tasking manager are only one step to complete the global task of mapping for an area.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487774768871_207301"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487774768871_207300"> We need a collectiv approach, a systematic revision of road tagging. Organisers of mapathonns, and later Project managers, should monitor road addition and assure that the tagging is corrected appropriately by experienced mappers.<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487774768871_206607"><span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487774768871_206657"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487774768871_206868"> As John just said, it is important to classify appropriately for the
various Navigation Applications to find the appropriate roads to connect between two points. </div></div><div class="signature" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487774768871_206614"><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487774768871_206863"> <br><font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487774768871_206862" face="garamond, new york, times, serif">Pierre </font><br></span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487774768871_206620"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, linéale; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> john whelan <jwhelan0112@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> yo paseopor <yopaseopor@gmail.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc :</span></b> "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> mercredi 22 février 2017 18h01<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [HOT] note to Project Managers: Highway=road<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv2221238946"><div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv2221238946gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;">But how many tiles get validated and how many validators check for highway=road every time?<br><br></div><div class="yiv2221238946gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;">I'm not sure I do.<br><br></div><div class="yiv2221238946gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Cheerio John<br></div></div><div class="yiv2221238946gmail_extra"><br><div class="yiv2221238946gmail_quote">On 22 February 2017 at 17:51, yo paseopor <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:yopaseopor@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:yopaseopor@gmail.com">yopaseopor@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv2221238946gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">Some projects of HOT should re-define their instructions. Also I think it would be interesting a specific HOT taggin' in some parts of a mapathon or similar (for example in phase one , when you have 50 unexperienced mappers making roads with bad imagery, it would useful a specific tagging highway=road or something like that). Then validators can specifiy the category of that road knowing the country and their possibilities with normal OSM tagging.<div>And a "special simplified version" of ID with only the two, three buttons you have to touch to take the keys and the values of this project would be useful too.</div><div><br></div><div>Salut i mapatons (Health and Mapathons)</div><div>yopaseopor</div><div><br></div></div><div class="yiv2221238946gmail_extra"><br><div class="yiv2221238946gmail_quote"><div><div class="yiv2221238946h5">On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 11:42 PM, john whelan <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="yiv2221238946gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div class="yiv2221238946h5"><div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv2221238946gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Currently there are HOT projects that include in the instructions the words <br><br>"If you are unsure of what tag to assign to a road, use the provisional highway=road tag."<br><br>Yes but many routing systems ignore this these. When we mapped with GPS traces we used highway=road because you didn't know if it was a motorway or a footway with steps and that's why many routing systems ignore them and JOSM validation flags them.<br><br>I would suggest if in doubt use highway=unclassified for instructions.<br><br></div><div class="yiv2221238946gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Does anyone else have any thoughts on this?<br><br></div><div class="yiv2221238946gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Thanks<br></div><div class="yiv2221238946gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif;font-size:small;"><br>Cheerio John<br></div></div>
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