<div dir="ltr">I love the above example. Mapswipe is a great tool for large scale mapping of the type that HOT and Missing Maps does often.<div><br></div><div><span id="gmail-docs-internal-guid-b229e84a-16cf-320a-151f-261b9ea47477"><span style="font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Heidelberg University has done some great early work to visualize the results and projects in MapSwipe. This is still a work in progress but its a great example of the Missing Maps consortium members all pitching in and doing a little bit of work for a greater good, just like OSM.</span></span><br></div><div><br></div><div><span id="gmail-docs-internal-guid-b229e84a-16cf-320a-151f-261b9ea47477"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="http://mapswipe.geog.uni-heidelberg.de/">http://mapswipe.geog.uni-heidelberg.de/</a></span></span><span><span style="font-family:arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Violaine Doutreleau <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:v_doutreleau@cartong.org" target="_blank">v_doutreleau@cartong.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>Just a quick message to share my point of view : mapswipe allows
way more people to take part into Missing Maps than OSM, even
though it's not direct mapping...Anyone who doesnt't want or
doesn't know how to map in OSM can take part in this effort.
That's its best advantage and where it save mappers time...</p>
<p>Bests <br>
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<p>Violaine<br>
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<div class="m_-4427552887933580702moz-cite-prefix">Le 26/03/2017 à 17:58, john whelan a
écrit :<br>
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<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">>It's
definitely useful to save actual mapper's time. For validation
I'm not sure it would be a big help.<br>
<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I must
be missing something. Mapswipe uses four passes and then we
get different sized tiles out of it. We still need an old
fashioned mapper to map the tile. Traditionally if a mapper
thought the tile size was too big they would split it to give
different sized tiles.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">How
does it save mapper time? Does that take into account the
four passes that mapswipe uses first?<br>
<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">On the
validation side really all you need is to inspect the tile and
say its OK. If the tile is good enough you don't need to add
anything. From a practical point of view a conventional
validator could do it in one pass provided we trusted them.
You'd still want to run JOSM for things like duplicate
segments, crossing ways etc but that's faster than having to
do a visual inspection as well.<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Cheerio
John<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 26 March 2017 at 10:46, Jo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:winfixit@gmail.com" target="_blank">winfixit@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">It's definitely useful to save actual
mapper's time. For validation I'm not sure it would be a
big help.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Op 26 mrt. 2017 3:12 p.m. schreef
"john whelan" <<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>>:
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Would
we be better ahead by using something like
mapswipe to validate? If a tile is OK there
is no need to add to the map from the tool.
If three mappers tick it then I would say its
good to go.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">The
current system we use four mappers to
mapswipe, then a conventional mapper to map
followed by a validator. Six passes to get a
validated tile. The other way would give you
one in four passes three of which would be on
smartphones.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Cheerio
John<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 26 March 2017 at
09:01, john whelan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">But
does it address the concern about how
much effort is expended compared to the
value added?<br>
<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Cheerio
John<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 26 March
2017 at 08:44, Ralf Stephan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gtrwst9@gmail.com" target="_blank">gtrwst9@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Search is your
friend. Searching for Mapswipe
yields eg <a href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/2521" target="_blank">http://tasks.hotosm.org/pro<wbr>ject/2521</a>
<div>where clearly the tiles are
preselected. Also the
description: "<span>The data are prepared by MapSwipe</span>"</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
</div>
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<div class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665h5">
<div dir="ltr">On Sun, Mar
26, 2017 at 2:40 PM john
whelan <<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>
<div class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665h5">
<div dir="ltr" class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg">
<div class="m_-4427552887933580702gmail_default
m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I seem to recall
the same area is
mapswiped by four
different people
before a mapper maps
it. <br class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg">
<br class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg">
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<div class="m_-4427552887933580702gmail_default
m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Other than the
size of the tile or
which area to give
priority to I think
the advantage is that
people can do it
anywhere on a
smartphone.<br class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg">
<br class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg">
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<div class="m_-4427552887933580702gmail_default
m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I would hesitate
to say if it is worth
doing or not. In
future there might be
a way to bring
something into OSM via
a review process.<br class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg">
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<div class="m_-4427552887933580702gmail_default
m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Cheerio John<br class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg">
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26 March 2017 at
08:22, Hakuch <span dir="ltr" class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:hakuch@posteo.de" class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg" target="_blank">hakuch@posteo.de</a>></span>
wrote:<br class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg">
<blockquote class="m_-4427552887933580702gmail_quote
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On <a href="tel:26.03.2017%2014" value="+12603201714" class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg" target="_blank">26.03.2017
14</a>:13, john
whelan wrote:<br class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg">
> My
understanding is
that mapswipe is
only used to
identify where to
map.<br class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg">
> Not to
contribute to the
map.<br class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg">
><br class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg">
> Cheerio John<br class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg">
<br class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg">
</span>of course
there is no data
transmitted to OSM,
but how is the data
(I<br class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg">
mean, marked tiles)
used after I
transmitted it? How
much is it worth to<br class="m_-4427552887933580702m_5914374810466283297m_4623403439858992577m_-162141435764667665m_-4793174123916053898gmail_msg">
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