<div dir="ltr">I have also had some reservations regarding the use of <i>landuse=residentia</i>l to indicate the presence of settlements and communities.  In the case of formal towns this is still a useful tool but when it comes to loose rural communities in areas like Africa this leads to areas the size of large towns with a few scattered groups of houses.... this encompasses far more<i> landuse=farmland</i> than it does residential land.<div><br><div>Because of the difficulty for new and inexperienced mappers trying to decide what is a farmyard and what is not a farmyard the tendency has been to ignore this tag in favour of<i> landuse=residential</i> ... A tendency to which I agree is the better of two evils.</div></div><div><br></div><div>If we look at the short description of landuse=residential "<span style="background-color:rgb(249,249,249);color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.3px"><i><b>Predominantly houses or apartment buildings</b></i>" (<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Landuse">Map Features</a></span><font color="#000000" face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.3px">) it starts to make sense to just encompass the individual small parcels of land that the buildings occupy rather than trying to indicate a large swathe of land that we "presume" to be belonging to a single community group.The longer description "</span></font><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif"><b><i>An area of land dedicated to, or having predominantly residential buildings such as houses or apartment buildings</i></b><span style="font-size:14px">" and "</span></span><b><i><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif">The extent of the area should mark the boundary of known residential use, not the extent of the whole </span><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dtown" title="Tag:place=town" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-family:sans-serif">town</a><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif"> or </span><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dvillage" title="Tag:place=village" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-family:sans-serif">village</a></i></b><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">." </span><span style="font-size:14px;color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif"> (</span><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dresidential" style="font-size:14px;font-family:sans-serif">Wiki</a><span style="font-size:14px;color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif">) </span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px;color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37)"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">The practice of trying to indicate a town, village or community using the <i>landuse=rural</i> area has led to the erroneous</font></span><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif"> addition of <i>name=*</i> being tagged to it </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;text-align:right;white-space:nowrap">2</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;text-align:right;white-space:nowrap">90 250 times (source: Tag Info) rather than on a node inside the landuse=residential area.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;text-align:right;white-space:nowrap"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;text-align:right;white-space:nowrap">There is another tag that combines with<i> landuse=residential</i> which is <i>residential=rural</i> (<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:residential%3Drural">Wiki</a>) which has been used </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;text-align:right;white-space:nowrap">174 188 times (Tag Info) </span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;text-align:right;white-space:nowrap">and described as "<i><b>used to specify residential areas with low-rise residential buildings (buildings with tag </b>building=house<b>). It is usual</b></i></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;text-align:right;white-space:nowrap"><b><i>for each house has its own fenced allotment with yard and/or garden".</i></b></span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;text-align:right;white-space:nowrap"> This would help to support the practice of mapping the individual</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;text-align:right;white-space:nowrap">clusters of buildings as opposed to a large swathe of unpopulated land.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;text-align:right;white-space:nowrap"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;text-align:right;white-space:nowrap">This then also helps with the later improvement of the map when<i> landuse=farmland</i> is added and does not overlap or clash with the residential </span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px;text-align:right;white-space:nowrap">areas.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;text-align:right;white-space:nowrap"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;text-align:right;white-space:nowrap"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;text-align:right;white-space:nowrap"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;text-align:right;white-space:nowrap"><br></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 6:29 PM, john whelan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jwhelan0112@gmail.com" target="_blank">jwhelan0112@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">In Africa where we see small groups of huts clustered with other groups typically 100 meters apart some mappers will map each small cluster some draw a much larger landuse=residential covering perhaps a dozen small groupings.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">When validating I accept either but I suspect the multiple small landuse=residential is much more useful than the more sparsely populated larger method but it is only a suspicion.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">If it is, is there somewhere where we show the "best practice" method for mapping these settlements? <br><br><a href="http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1396#task/2151" target="_blank">http://tasks.hotosm.org/<wbr>project/1396#task/2151</a> is an example of one.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks John<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">

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