<div dir="ltr">Thanks so much for sharing that Violaine, really useful for mapathons especially if there is an issue with the overall leaderboard - thank you to the volunteer who made it too!</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 5:31 AM, Violaine Doutreleau <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:v_doutreleau@cartong.org" target="_blank">v_doutreleau@cartong.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi all,<br>
</p>
Here is the tool we use, developed by one of our volunteers : <a class="m_-4799773677902692377moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mapathon.cartong.org/" target="_blank">http://mapathon.cartong.org/</a><br>
<br>
It works pretty well in area where there is no much mappers external
to the TM project, directly editing in OSM, as we are trying to
figure out how to best take into account changeset comments (for now
it works on bbox+timestamps). Thanks Bjoern for the ref., we will
have a deeper look into this !<br>
<br>
Hope this can help !<br>
<br>
Bests,<br>
Violaine for Missing Maps <br>
CartONG<div><div class="h5"><br>
<div class="m_-4799773677902692377moz-cite-prefix">Le 20/06/2017 à 21:09, Bjoern Hassler a
écrit :<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Erwin, dear friends,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I have some nodejs code here: <a href="https://github.com/OSM-Utilities/JOSM-Scripts-HOT/blob/master/lib/mmstats.js" target="_blank">https://github.com/OSM-U<wbr>tilities/JOSM-Scripts-HOT/blob<wbr>/master/lib/mmstats.js</a>.
It shows users contributing under a hashtag (using the
osmstats api) and then shows edits by those users (buildings,
roads, but also other objects), as well as common issues (e.g.
isolated untagged notes, untagged ways, non-square 4-node
buildings). E.g. you'll see that for some users the non-square
buildings are a few % of their edits, which means they are
just omissions. For other users, it's more like 50%, which
means they are not squaring systematically. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>On a technical note: In terms of changed and diff: That
works for stats, but obviously also interested in validation.
What I'd really like is a query that gives me the "current
state of everything that changed between these times". In the
above code, you'll see some recursion, that should do that
(though I have to do some more testing, and there may be some
more recursion required). I was trying to keep it all within
one query as well, as the queries do take time.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Let me know if you have any questions or comments!</div>
<div>Bjoern</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 20 June 2017 at 07:48, Erwin
Olario <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:govvin@gmail.com" target="_blank">govvin@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div><br>
</div>
Instead of using changed, I run a query [0]: using
diff and filter the edits made by only by users who
are present in the mapathon:<br>
<br>
Caveat: there's an existing bug when querying dates
with UTC offsets, so use the actual offset time
instead.<br>
<br>
</div>
Also, instead of filtering by "uid:", you may use
"user:" for usernames. However, some new users
eventually change their names to something else, so I
prefer to use the former.<br>
<div><br>
[0]: <a href="https://gist.github.com/govvin/8cc3cfff204314536d744fe82c52e6f3" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/govvin<wbr>/8cc3cfff204314536d744fe82c52e<wbr>6f3</a><br>
<br>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 7:45 PM
Bjoern Hassler <<a href="mailto:bjohas%2Bmw@gmail.com" target="_blank">bjohas+mw@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Dear friends,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I looked into <a href="https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/osm-stats" target="_blank">https://github.com/Americ<wbr>anRedCross/osm-stats</a>
a little, and while I can't quite get overpass
results to match with what the API outputs, it
does have very useful features.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Is anybody interested in (or already
working on) getting (live) stats for
mapathons, via enhancements to osm-stats or
otherwise?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>E.g. you could </div>
<div>1. Use osm-stats to get users making
changes with specific hastags</div>
<div>2. Use overpass to load objects changed by
those users since start of mapathon</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>You could then run some stats (similar to
the /user endpoint in osm-stats). These stats
could also include results from running
queries on bounding boxes, or on user-lists.
This could all be done in combination with
osm-stats and overpass, but there may be a
case for integrating it into osm-stats, see <a href="https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/osm-stats/issues/45" target="_blank">https://github.com/AmericanRed<wbr>Cross/osm-stats/issues/45</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Either with the process above, or an
extended osm-stats, you could also
systematically check for common issues, e.g.
untagged single nodes, ways with four nodes
which are not squared, etc. I.e. you could
automatically check for such common issues
across the whole mapathon, with output like:
"OSM user ABC added X untagged nodes and Y
non-squared buildings." rather than wait for a
validator to spot the issues manually / later.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Of course, some of this this can be done
via MapPaint/MapCSS-styles in JOSM too (e.g.
single nodes), but I am not sure how you could
do squared buildings. Also across a large
area, the above could also be useful for an
overview (and giving an indication of somebody
making systematic mistake vs. one-off slips).
The JOSM plugin could also take you to those
places where there are issues, to inspect this
(or even within tasks to fix it). Definitely
going beyond what you can do with MapCSS or
validation rule, you could use the JOSM plugin
to visit new buildings (and whatever other
objects) to check the tracing was done
accurately.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Of course, there are different approaches,
that give you almost the same (i.e. using
MapCSS or validation rules, To Do plugin etc),
but a dedicated "MM mapathon validation"
plugin would be easy to set up and could be
made user friendly. It wouldn't replace the
usual validation process, but would enable a
"key validator" to keep an overview during a
mapathon.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'd be keen to hear people's views, and
whether anybody else feels this would be
worth-while and useful.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>What do you think?</div>
<div>Bjoern</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 16 June 2017 at
17:07, Bjoern Hassler <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bjohas+mw@gmail.com" target="_blank">bjohas+mw@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Mike,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks for that. Yeah, at the
moment I'm using overpass queries
with <span class="m_-4799773677902692377m_3042172522644399747m_-353069572717220815gmail-m_3547684791449947335gmail-s1" style="font-family:Menlo;font-size:13px">(changed:</span><span class="m_-4799773677902692377m_3042172522644399747m_-353069572717220815gmail-m_3547684791449947335gmail-s2" style="color:rgb(52,189,38);font-family:Menlo;font-size:13px">"2017-06-15T17:0<wbr>0:00Z"</span><span class="m_-4799773677902692377m_3042172522644399747m_-353069572717220815gmail-m_3547684791449947335gmail-s1" style="font-family:Menlo;font-size:13px">,</span><span class="m_-4799773677902692377m_3042172522644399747m_-353069572717220815gmail-m_3547684791449947335gmail-s2" style="color:rgb(52,189,38);font-family:Menlo;font-size:13px">"2017-06-15T21:00:00Z"</span><span class="m_-4799773677902692377m_3042172522644399747m_-353069572717220815gmail-m_3547684791449947335gmail-s1" style="font-family:Menlo;font-size:13px">)<wbr>; </span>to work out
changes during the mapathon. You
could go by bbox (and perhaps catch
some other MM mappers who were
mapping there independently or, as
you say unlikely, some other
mappers). Or you can go by user (no
bbox) in case users contributed to
several projects, or by accident
picked another project. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Is there a simple way of getting
the bbox from the tasking manager?
That would be great. (Of course, it
can be computed, e.g. by downloading
the gpx box from the NE and SW
tiles... I know it's simple... but
not as simple as clicking a button
on the tasking manager that takes
you from a task to the overpass
query with the bbox filled in :)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The leaderboard uses this <a href="https://github.com/AmericanRedCross" target="_blank">https://github.com/AmericanRed<wbr>Cross</a>,
which is helpful, as the Overpass
API cannot query on the changeset
comments, but the redcross api can
(and so you don't need to use the
main OSM API).</div>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>Bjoern </div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 16
June 2017 at 16:27, Mike
Thompson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:miketho16@gmail.com" target="_blank">miketho16@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">One can use
Overpass to get all of the
OSM elements which were
added, changed or deleted
during the time of your
mapathon in your AOI. These
will be tagged with the user
who last touched them, so
you can get stats by user.
The disadvantage is that you
will include edits by users
who were not part of your
mapathon but who happened to
made edits to OSM in that
AOI during the time period
of your mapathon. However,
unless you are working on a
crisis task, this is not
likely to skew your results
too much in my experience.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I sometimes make a
Carto map of the results,
e.g.:</div>
<div><a href="https://tekim.carto.com/viz/baf5c3a2-2aa8-11e7-88b2-0ef24382571b/embed_map" target="_blank">https://tekim.carto.com/viz/ba<wbr>f5c3a2-2aa8-11e7-88b2-0ef24382<wbr>571b/embed_map</a><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I have more detailed
instructions should
someone be interested.</div>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>Mike</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</font></span></div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at
9:15 AM, Donal Hunt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:donal.hunt@gmail.com" target="_blank">donal.hunt@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div><i>[I don't
speak for the
team (I'm just
a volunteer
contributor to
missing maps)
so someone
with more
context may
chime in with
better
info...]</i></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'm not
familiar with
the
implementation
of the
leaderboard at
all. Someone
from the HOTOSM
web team
probably knows.
Or you can file
a feature
request here I
think: <a href="https://github.com/MissingMaps/missingmaps.github.io/issues" target="_blank">https://github.com/Miss<wbr>ingMaps/missingmaps.github.io/<wbr>issues</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
For the features
specific to the
tasking manager, I
suspect that
filing them <a href="https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues" target="_blank">here</a> (<a href="https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues" target="_blank">https://github.com/hotos<wbr>m/osm-tasking-manager2/issues</a>)
is the right thing
to do. That way
one of the regular
maintainers or a
volunteer
developer can see
the priority of
the feature being
developed and
contribute to it
being implemented.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>For the stats
related
requests, I
suspect
something
probably exists
already within
the OSM
community /
ecosystem that
could be tweaked
for your needs.
I don't have
enough context
right now to
suggest
something (maybe
in the future).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards</div>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>Donal</div>
</font></span></div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
Fri, Jun 16,
2017 at 3:38
PM, Bjoern
Hassler <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bjohas+mw@gmail.com" target="_blank">bjohas+mw@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Dear
Jan, dear
Donal, dear
friends,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Is there
an instance
of <a href="https://github.com/tgrippa/Mapathon_HOT_OSM_WhatWeMapped" rel="noreferrer" style="font-size:12.8px" target="_blank">https://github.com/tgrippa/<wbr>Mapathon_HOT_OSM_WhatWeMapped</a> <wbr>running
somewhere?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This is
great: <a href="http://www.missingmaps.org/leaderboards/#/HASHTAG" style="font-size:12.8px" target="_blank">http://www.missingmaps.<wbr>org/leaderboards/#/HASHTAG</a>,
though there's
some
discrepancy
between the
data it shows
and what I can
see from the
overpass api
directly and
from <a href="http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/" target="_blank">http://resultmaps.neis-one.org<wbr>/</a>.
How does the
leaderboards
tool collect
the
information? <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Ideally,
what I would
like is:</div>
<div>- all
users who
contributed to
tasking
managers under
id #1234 (from
date/time-date/time), including incomplete tasks</div>
<div>
<div>- all
users who
contributed to
the bbox of
project #1234
(from
date/time-date/time)</div>
</div>
<div>- all
users who used
hashtag in a
variety of
spellings
(#hashtag |
#Hashtag |
etc) (from
date/time-date/time)</div>
<div>(- all
users who
attended a
mapathon....
see below)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Ideally
as GET
parameters or
similar, i.e.</div>
<div><a href="http://someservice/?project=1234%7C1235%7C1236&includeincompletetasks=yes&includeprojectareas=yes&hastag=hashtag%7Chashtag2&hastagcasesensitive=no&start=...&end=." target="_blank">http://someservice/?project=12<wbr>34|1235|1236&includeincomplete<wbr>tasks=yes&includeprojectareas=<wbr>yes&hastag=hashtag|hashtag2&ha<wbr>stagcasesensitive=no&start=...<wbr>&end=.</a>..</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>which
would return a
list of users,
with projects
contributed to
and how that
fact was
determined
(via project
id1/2/3,
project area
for project
id1/2/3 or
hashtag1,
hashtag2,
etc), plus
number of
contributions
per user in
different
categories
(nodes, ways,
way[building],
way[highway]),
plus (one can
but dream!)
the age of
their OSM
account and
total
changesets.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Clearly
there is
redundancy in
the query -
but that's on
purpose. It
would e.g.
find people
who are
mapping in an
area, but not
working
through the
task manager.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It would
also be
amazing if on
the tasking
manager,
people can
register their
attendance at
a mapathon.
E.g. as you go
to project
page it says:
"A mapathon
for this
project is in
progress.
Click here if
you are
participating
in this
mapathon in
person or
remotely." </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>(E.g. In
terms of the
query, add
includeattendeelist=yes</div>
<div>
<div><a href="http://someservice/?....&includeattendeelist=yes" target="_blank">http://someservice/?....&inclu<wbr>deattendeelist=yes</a>
)</div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If you
had such an
attendee list
tool, maybe
you could even
put in your
name and table
number. Then
we'd
immediately
know who is
there, and
could start
looking at
their edits,
and support
them. I
sometimes
wander round a
mapathon
trying to find
a user who
needs a bit of
extra support.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Having
said all of
this, I'd be
very happy to
help build
such tools,
but would
prefer to do
this as part
of a small
team!</div>
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<div>Bjoern</div>
</font></span>
<div>
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</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
16 June 2017
at 14:09, Jan
Martinec <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jan@martinec.name" target="_blank">jan@martinec.name</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span>Dne
16.6.2017 v
14:13 Bjoern
Hassler
napsal(a):<br>
</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Dear friends,
<div>
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<br>
What tools do
we normally
use to get
statistics on
a mapathon?<br>
<br>
Clearly the
tasking
manager
provides
contributors
to the task in
the 'stats'<br>
section, and
also I can run
overpass to
look for
changes made
by those
users.<br>
<br>
I don't think
it's possible
to get
changesets by
#hashtag?
You'd have to
use the<br>
main API to
get all change
sets for the
period of the
event, and
then select
the<br>
ones that have
the right
hashtag(s)?<br>
<br>
Does anybody
have some
tools they
could point me
to?<br>
<br>
(Something
like this <a href="http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-changesets" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://resultmaps.neis-one.org<wbr>/osm-changesets</a>
would be<br>
great, if it
listed the
changesets and
users...)<br>
<br>
Many thanks!<br>
Bjoern<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
</div>
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Hello,<br>
<br>
would this be
useful? I
think it
provides a
numerical
output as well
as pretty
pictures:<br>
<a href="https://github.com/tgrippa/Mapathon_HOT_OSM_WhatWeMapped" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/tgrippa/Map<wbr>athon_HOT_OSM_WhatWeMapped</a><br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
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Martinec<br>
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