<div dir="ltr">Big thanks to all at the governance working group for the effort.... Much appreciated.<div><br></div><div>P</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Philippe Verdy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:verdy_p@wanadoo.fr" target="_blank">verdy_p@wanadoo.fr</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">You could add the "language" to the list of discrimination targets (whever it is a native language or learnt foreign languages).<div><br></div><div>People will honestly do their best to be understood, but the lingusitic perfection is not a goal in talks and there are various levels of mastering it. Doing perfect translations is difficult even for machines and there's naturally some level of misunderstanding between two people attempting to use the "same" language where every language on earth has many social and regional variants. We don't speak machine code but even if we did, there would be bugs as well and code bugs are there to be corrected over time.</div><div><br></div><div>"Language" should be normally part of "culture" but frequently not understood like this because it is an unavoidable barrier that fragments the community that should stay open for cooperation. And there are things you can't learn in language books or even when reading, when we are not contacntly exposed to their oral and written forms in various contexts to have a full view of what is meant of what some local community will prefer to use locally (this goes in opposition to the OSM and HOT global goals, which cannot be achieved by anyone alone).</div><span class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-10-30 19:23 GMT+01:00 Dale Kunce <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dale.kunce@gmail.com" target="_blank">dale.kunce@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><p style="border:0px;padding:0px;font-family:"Open Sans",Arial,sans-serif;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0);margin:10px 0px"><b><i>Short Version</i></b><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="border:0px;margin:0pt 0px;padding:0px;font-family:"Open Sans",Arial,sans-serif;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:1.38;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">HOT is committed to providing an inclusive, welcoming, and safe environment for people of </span><span style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">of any race, ethnicity, culture, national origin, colour, immigration status, social and economic class, educational level, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity and expression, age, size, family status, political belief, religion, and mental and physical ability</span><span style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">.</span></p><p style="border:0px;padding:0px;font-family:"Open Sans",Arial,sans-serif;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0);margin:10px 0px"><span style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Arial;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;font-weight:bold;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;white-space:pre-wrap">Encouraged Behaviors: </span></p><span style="white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;font-family:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><ul><li><span style="font-family:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;background-color:transparent">Be friendly and patient.</span><br></li><li><span style="font-family:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;background-color:transparent">Be welcoming.</span><br></li><li><span style="font-family:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;background-color:transparent">Be considerate.</span><br></li><li><span style="font-family:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;background-color:transparent">Be respectful. </span><br></li><li><span style="font-family:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;background-color:transparent">Be careful in your word phrasing and tone.</span><br></li><li><span style="font-family:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;background-color:transparent">Assume all communications are positive.</span><br></li><li><span style="font-family:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;background-color:transparent">When we disagree, try to understand why.</span><br></li></ul></span><p style="border:0px;padding:0px;font-family:"Open Sans",Arial,sans-serif;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,0,0);margin:10px 0px"><span style="border:0px;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;font-stretch:inherit;line-height:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;white-space:pre-wrap">Behaviors that Won’t be Tolerated:</span></p><span style="white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;font-family:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><ul><li><span style="font-family:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;background-color:transparent">Verbal, written, or physical abuse. </span><br></li><li><span style="font-family:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-variant-caps:inherit;background-color:transparent">Discrimination of any person.</span></li></ul></span></div></blockquote></div></div></span></div>

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