<div dir="auto">Thanks for the follow up Felix. It seems to work fine now! I'm seeing a lot of happy mapping people faces on social media. :-)</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 13 Nov 2019, 18:11 Felix Delattre, <<a href="mailto:felix.delattre@hotosm.org">felix.delattre@hotosm.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>we are back with the HOT Tasking
Manager. We are continuing to monitor the application servers,
database, and network, and are investigating further what went
wrong. Again, we apologize for the delays and frustration this has
caused, especially during GeoWeek.</div>
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<div>Felix<br>
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<div>We have just send out the following email to all mapathon
organisers, but hopefully the HOT Tasking Manager is properly
up and running again soon. <br>
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<div>Happy mapping everyone! :-) </div>
<div>Cheers, </div>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">Hello Mappers,</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-US">Happy GIS day!
Unfortunately many of you have experienced some issues
with HOT Tasking Manager
during mapathons today. We want to apologize for this
inconvenience, and to
share some guidance on what to do if this happens during
your mapathon.</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,28,29);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial" lang="EN-US">HOT Tasking Manager is experiencing
some issues - why?</span></b><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,28,29);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial" lang="EN-US">HOT Tasking Manager is currently unstable due
to a
failed maintenance from last night. We don’t presently
know when this problem
will be fixed. The HOT tech team is working as fast as
possible to fix the
problem. To find out more about the status, please check:</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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not if it is experiencing delays (as it is presently)</span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" lang="EN-US"></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;vertical-align:baseline;margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,28,29);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial" lang="EN-US">follow @hotosm_tech on Twitter for updates</span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" lang="EN-US"></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(29,28,29);vertical-align:baseline;margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial" lang="EN-US">Join the HOT Slack (</span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" lang="EN-US"><a href="http://slack.hotosm.org/" style="color:rgb(5,99,193)" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">http://slack.hotosm.org/</span></a><span style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">)
and ask questions in the #tasking-manager channel</span></span></li>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,28,29);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial" lang="EN-US">Contingency plans for your mapathon:
what are your options if the HOT Tasking Manager is not
working during your
event?</span></b><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm" start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;vertical-align:baseline;margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,28,29);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial" lang="EN-US">Map directly in OSM! Check out an area you
know well and contribute your own knowledge. If you’d
like to host a map-walk, please see this guide on </span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" lang="EN-US"><a href="https://osmgeoweek.org/docs/maps_me_general_guide.pdf" style="color:rgb(5,99,193)" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">maps.me</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,28,29);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial" lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" lang="EN-US"></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;vertical-align:baseline;margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,28,29);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial" lang="EN-US">Host a Mapswipeathon. </span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" lang="EN-US"><a href="https://mapswipe.org/" style="color:rgb(5,99,193)" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">MapSwipe</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,28,29);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial" lang="EN-US"> has several tasks up and running on the
app. You can help swiping in Indonesia, Venezuela,
Philippines and Colombia. Please note this is a mobile
app only.</span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" lang="EN-US"></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;vertical-align:baseline;margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,28,29);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial" lang="EN-US">There are alternative Tasking manager
instances you can use like </span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" lang="EN-US"><a href="https://tm3.openstreetmap.id/" style="color:rgb(5,99,193)" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">https://tm3.openstreetmap.id/</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(29,28,29);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial" lang="EN-US"> &</span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" lang="EN-US"><a href="http://tasks.teachosm.org/" style="color:rgb(5,99,193)" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><span style="color:rgb(29,28,29);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">
</span><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">tasks.teachosm.org</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(17,85,204);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial" lang="EN-US">. </span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial" lang="EN-US">Please note that these will not have the
same projects on them, so you’ll need to pick a new
project.</span><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" lang="EN-US"></span></li>
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Tasking Managers, are completely separate systems that let
you contribute to
OSM, so they should <b>not </b>be affected by the outage
of the main HOT
Tasking Manager.</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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appreciate your
flexibility. We are working with the HOT Tech Team to get
this fixed as soon as
possible. If you have any questions or need help course
correcting please
reach out. </span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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schreef Marco Minghini <<a href="mailto:marco.minghini86@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">marco.minghini86@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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mapathon today at the European Commission - JRC in Ispra
(Italy):</div>
<div><a href="https://tasks.hotosm.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://tasks.hotosm.org/</a> was
down, but for the purposes of the mapathon (introducing
humanitarian mapping and introducing participants to
mapping) the instance at <a href="https://tasks.teachosm.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://tasks.teachosm.org</a>
was totally fine.</div>
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<div>This solution might be useful for many other people
involved in mapathons during this week!</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
<div>Marco<br>
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alle ore 13:32 Felix Delattre <<a href="mailto:felix.delattre@hotosm.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">felix.delattre@hotosm.org</a>>
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<div>Yes, this is the worst time. Almost the whole tech
team is sole focusing on that emergency.</div>
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<div>We had earlier today some problems with a
maintenance procedure that went out of control. And at
the moment we are facing the following issues on the
Tasking Manager that has been brought back:</div>
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<div>- Locking of tasks is not working and throws an
error message. </div>
<div>- Login is failing for some, not for others</div>
<div>- Activities of late yesterday, such as projects
that have been created, might be lost in the database,
as we had to use a backup from yesterday.</div>
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<div>We are working on solving it soon. And will report
here and in our other channels (slack, <a href="http://twitter.com/hotosm_tech" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">twitter.com/hotosm_tech</a>
and <a href="http://status.hotosm.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">status.hotosm.org</a>)
more information.<br>
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<div>In the meantime we can only offer alternative
instances such as:</div>
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<div>* <a href="http://tm3.openstreetmap.id" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tm3.openstreetmap.id</a></div>
<div>* <a href="http://tasks-assisted.hotosm.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tasks-assisted.hotosm.org</a></div>
<div>* <a href="http://tasks.teachosm.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tasks.teachosm.org</a></div>
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<div>Please excuse the inconvenience and we will post
any updates as soon as possible.</div>
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<div>So far an update from the infrastructure experts on
what happened earlier today:</div>
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<div>> <b>Summary:</b><br>
> Tasking Manager is now back and working.
Unfortunately, many email addresses were lost and
therefore some users who login will be asked for their
email addresses again. Projects are intact and
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> <b>So what happened?</b><br>
> During the scheduled maintenance to upgrade
Tasking Manager instance, one of our automated scripts
deleted our database. This is not unexpected. But the
backup we made before deletion was deleted along with
the database. In a nutshell, we lost the production
database completely, including automated backups. We
however had a separate offline backup that was taken
manually yesterday. But we had stripped email
addresses from this database backup for privacy
reasons. We had to restore email addresses from
another offline backup from 10 days ago to fix it. We
are now closely monitoring the DB and the application
for any problems.</div>
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> <b>What can you expect in the future?</b><br>
> We learned many valuable lessons from this
including our approach to data backups, performance
and stability. All our experiences from the outages of
recent past have made us think about how to overhaul
our approach to optimize our infrastructure. We will
work to implement processes to mitigate performance,
deployment and stability problems over the next few
weeks. We are also working on a detailed RCA with
technical details of the outage.<br>
We understand that this would have caused quite a bit
of frustration and we apologize for that. You can
expect things to improve in the next few weeks. As
always, you can follow us on Twitter (<a href="https://twitter.com/hotosm_tech" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://twitter.com/hotosm_tech</a>)
or Slack for updates in addition to our status page at
(<a href="https://status.hotosm.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://status.hotosm.org</a>).<br>
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at 12:01 PM Jorieke Vyncke <<a href="mailto:jorieke.vyncke@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jorieke.vyncke@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi all,
<div>Yes, please HOT, can you do everything to keep
the TM online and stable today / this week? </div>
<div>It's GISday today and there are more than 30
mapathons worldwide and 100+ this week for
OSMgeoweek. Mapathons are happening in Uganda,
Nigeria, Amsterdam, Sydney, Rio, etc.</div>
<div>At the moment I tell people to go to <a href="http://tasks.teachosm.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tasks.teachosm.org</a>
and MapSwipe, if the HOT TM is not working. </div>
<div>Best regards, </div>
<div>Jorieke</div>
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om 11:51 schreef Pete Masters via HOT <<a href="mailto:hot@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">hot@openstreetmap.org</a>>:<br>
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<div>I'm sure you are all aware, but just in
case... this is geo week and there are more
than 70 mapathons planned for this week. Maybe
updates from the tech team need to be posted
across channels on this as it is critical
infrastructure for all of these events and
people might not be connected to slack / list
/ facebook etc...</div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
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<div>Pete<br>
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<div dir="ltr"> Hello Tech team, we just
want to let you know that the tasking
manager isn't stable yet, It has has worked
for 2 hrs and now is on and off. <br>
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OpenStreetMap for Humanitarian
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