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<p>could be also interesting:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 25.01.21 um 18:38 schrieb Pierre
Béland via HOT:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">The best yes would be that
we add a note adding exception for major road networks such
as the Inter-African highway project sponsored by UN,
Inter-African Bank and other regional partners. See <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Trans-African_Highway"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Trans-African_Highway</a></div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">that describes the OSM
relations to describe this network. <br>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Some infos also in <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-African_Highway_network"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-African_Highway_network</a><span
style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0,
191);font-weight:bold;"></span>, where it says that this
is an infrastructure program across Africa and there are not
necessarily signs on the roads. <br>
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<div> Le lundi 25 janvier 2021 11 h 34 min 30 s UTC−5, Rafael
Avila Coya <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ravilacoya@gmail.com"><ravilacoya@gmail.com></a> a écrit : </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi, Pierre:<br clear="none">
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So we should add that to the wikis, right? Otherwise users
will be <br clear="none">
confused as when to use the trunk or primary values.<br
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Cheers,<br clear="none">
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Rafael.<br clear="none">
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O 25/01/21 ás 16:40, Pierre Béland via HOT escribiu:<br
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> We have created the Highway tag Africa wiki page in
2013 to reflect the <br clear="none">
> fact that road structures and conditions vary in many
countries and the <br clear="none">
> official Highway tag do not reflect this. Many
discussions since 2013. <br clear="none">
> It was proposed to use the Trunk classification to
reflect <br clear="none">
> inter-regional roads, this independantly of then road
structure. This <br clear="none">
> tagging schema is now quite generally used in
countries / areas where <br clear="none">
> infhastructures differ from the «northern countries»
standard.<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> See this truck stuck on a North-Kivu road at the
rainy season.<br clear="none">
> <a shape="rect"
href="https://twitter.com/pierzen/status/1163096946300653570"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://twitter.com/pierzen/status/1163096946300653570</a><br
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> <br clear="none">
> Even if the infrastructure is inadequate, this is
stil a vital road link <br clear="none">
> in the region.<br clear="none">
> Pierre<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> Le lundi 25 janvier 2021 08 h 59 min 13 s UTC−5,
Fernando Trebien <br clear="none">
> <<a shape="rect"
href="mailto:fernando.trebien@gmail.com" rel="nofollow"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">fernando.trebien@gmail.com</a>>
a écrit :<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> Hi!<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> The current definition of highway=trunk for Africa
[1] and East Africa<br clear="none">
> [2] appears to reflect mapping practices in some
highly developed<br clear="none">
> countries that are not common in most developing
countries. The two<br clear="none">
> points that I find very restrictive:<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> 1. Restricted to motorised vehicles: not mandatory
even in many<br clear="none">
> developed countries [3]<br clear="none">
> 2. Motorway-like layout with multiple lanes: does
this include single<br clear="none">
> carriageways with 2 lanes, 1 lane per direction?<br
clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> In the English wiki, the definition of highway=trunk
is less<br clear="none">
> restrictive, and so are many of its translations. In
addition, many<br clear="none">
> highways mapped as highway=trunk in Africa (and East
Africa) do not<br clear="none">
> meet these requirements and apparently did not at the
time [4] of the<br clear="none">
> edit.<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> Sometimes trunk roads may not even be paved. Examples
include the<br clear="none">
> A-360 [5] and P-504 [6] routes in the Russian Far
East and the<br clear="none">
> Trans-Amazonian Highway (BR-230) [7] in the North
Region of Brazil.<br clear="none">
> Iceland's Ring Road [8] was also unpaved until
recently in some parts.<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> So, I would like to propose changing the definition
in [1] to<br clear="none">
> something like what the English wiki says: "The most
important roads<br clear="none">
> in a country's system that are not motorways."
Possibly adding that<br clear="none">
> these are generally the main routes between very
large cities. What do<br clear="none">
> you think?<br clear="none">
> <br clear="none">
> [1] <a shape="rect"
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa</a><br
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> [2] <a shape="rect"
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/East_Africa_Tagging_Guidelines"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/East_Africa_Tagging_Guidelines</a><br
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> [3] <br clear="none">
> <a shape="rect"
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access_restrictions"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access_restrictions</a><br
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> [4] <br clear="none">
> <a shape="rect"
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Highway_Tag_Africa&type=revision&diff=1337238&oldid=1337236"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Highway_Tag_Africa&type=revision&diff=1337238&oldid=1337236</a><br
clear="none">
> [5] <a shape="rect"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=58.53671&mlon=125.38264"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=58.53671&mlon=125.38264</a><br
clear="none">
> [6] <a shape="rect"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=64.57219&mlon=142.27424"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=64.57219&mlon=142.27424</a><br
clear="none">
> [7] <a shape="rect"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=-3.68545&mlon=-53.56702"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=-3.68545&mlon=-53.56702</a><br
clear="none">
> [8] <a shape="rect"
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=64.78732&mlon=-14.44138"
rel="nofollow" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=64.78732&mlon=-14.44138</a><br
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> -- <br clear="none">
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