Hi Frederik,<div><br></div><div>I updated the source tag in the Wiki for CLC import in Romania <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue</a>. I am not sure if this is enough or will EEA require a complete change in the database?</div>
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Ciprian<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Frederik Ramm <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:frederik@remote.org">frederik@remote.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi,<br>
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at a conference today I met someone who works for EEA in Copenhagen and we had a chat about EEA data in OSM. A very friendly chat, I must add, he wasn't actually complaining about anything, but he did mention a few oddities he found when studying how OSM was using CORINE (and Urban Atlas) data.<br>
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I'm listing them here in the hope that maybe some of them can be rectified, or avoided in future CORINE imports (hello Dermot!)<br>
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a) Corine Land Cover<br>
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Generally, you can obtain CORINE data from national bodies or from the EEA directly. The data sets may be minimally different, and may be licensed differently.<br>
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The French import states as their source: "Union européenne - SOeS, CORINE Land Cover, 2006.", where SoeS stands for "le service de l'Observation et des Statistiques (SOeS) du Commissariat général au développement durable (CGDD)". This is a French national organisation.<br>
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The Romanian import took their data directly from the EEA (as documented on <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CLC_RO_Permission" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CLC_RO_Permission</a>), but in their source tags they credit SOeS like the French did which is not correct. It would be great if this could be fixed, or at least rectified on the wiki page.<br>
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There's also a Spanish, Estonian, and Hungarian CORINE import of which I haven't fully investigated the tags. For Hungary, <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalog" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalog</a> mentions both the national office and the EEA as their source which is porbably not correct either.<br>
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b) Urban Atlas<br>
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There's a lot of Urban Atlas-sourced material in OSM was well, most of it in Poland or Slovakia. Some of it is tagged only with "source=urban atlas" but there's no mention of the EEA. Much like ourselves, the EEA would prefer to be credited properly if their data is used.<br>
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As I said, it's not that EEA are complaining (and they don't have any set-in-stone attribution rules anyway, only that you have to attribute) but we should certainly aim to do it right!<br>
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Bye<br>
Frederik<br><font color="#888888">
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