<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Serge,</div><div><br></div>I think you missed the line:<div><br></div><div>"More news to follow."</div><div><br></div><div>From what I read it is a first email to the list introducing the import and saying what they are working on. Maybe I'm misreading but I read your response as being a bit negative. It looks as though Jeff has discussed/is discussing it with his local community "A group of Seattle OSM'ers (led by Cliff Snow) are getting together to discuss the methods for importing and double-checking the information. <a href="http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Seattle/events/93524692/">http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Seattle/events/93524692/</a>" </div><div><br></div><div>And he is following the guidelines (the key being '<span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; ">appropriate local communities')</span>:</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Discuss your import on the </span><a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports" class="external text" rel="nofollow" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(51, 102, 187); background-image: url(data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAoAAAAKCAYAAACNMs+9AAAAGXRFWHRTb2Z0d2FyZQBBZG9iZSBJbWFnZVJlYWR5ccllPAAAAFZJREFUeF59z4EJADEIQ1F36k7u5E7ZKXeUQPACJ3wK7UNokVxVk9kHnQH7bY9hbDyDhNXgjpRLqFlo4M2GgfyJHhjq8V4agfrgPQX3JtJQGbofmCHgA/nAKks+JAjFAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); padding-right: 13px; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-position: 100% 50%; background-repeat: no-repeat no-repeat; ">imports@openstreetmap.org</a><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> </span><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists" title="Mailing lists" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; ">mailing list</a><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> </span><b style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">and</b><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> with appropriate local communities. Many local communities have their own </span><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapping_projects" title="Mapping projects" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; ">wiki pages</a><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> and/or a </span><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists" title="Mailing lists" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; ">Mailing lists</a><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">. Coordinate with other people with similar plans."</span></div><div><br></div><div><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;">Thanks,</span></font></div><div><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;">Glen</span></font></div><div><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px;"><br></span></font><div><div>On 4/12/2012, at 11:30 AM, Serge Wroclawski <<a href="mailto:emacsen@gmail.com">emacsen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Jeff Meyer <<a href="mailto:jeff@gwhat.org">jeff@gwhat.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">All -<br><br>The city of Seattle has recently granted permission to use data found at<br><a href="http://data.seattle.gov">data.seattle.gov</a> in OpenStreetMap.<br><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#City_of_Seattle.2C_Washington">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#City_of_Seattle.2C_Washington</a><br><br>A group of Seattle OSM'ers (led by Cliff Snow) are getting together to<br>discuss the methods for importing and double-checking the information.<br>http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Seattle/events/93524692/<br></blockquote><br><br><blockquote type="cite">The current plan is to focus on addresses and building outlines.<br>Sources are currently suggested to be tagged as:<br>source:addr=<a href="http://data.seattle.gov">data.seattle.gov</a><br>source:path=<a href="http://data.seattle.gov">data.seattle.gov</a><br>so as to accomodate other sourcing information for those points and ways, as<br>appropriate.<br></blockquote><br>source tags are not really appropriate for indivdual elements, but<br>should be on the changeset, but more importantly, the specific<br>datasets should be referenced, as <a href="http://data.seattle.gov">data.seattle.gov</a> doesn't talk about<br>the version of the data, or even what dataset it is.<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Data has been converted from shape to osm using pnorman's ogr2osm python<br>scripts and some translation instructions Cliff has put together.<br></blockquote><br>Where is the source of your transformation scripts?<br>Where are the specific data files you're transforming?<br>How will you handle object conflation?<br><br><blockquote type="cite">More news to follow. Please advise of any concerns.<br></blockquote><br>I have many concerns, some of which are discussed above, but more<br>generally, you seem to not have discussed this with the greater OSM<br>community, including the talk-us list.<br><br>Imports are very sensitive and should not be taken without an<br>incredible amount of thought and planning, and a lot of community<br>involvement.<br><br>- Serge<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Imports mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Imports@openstreetmap.org">Imports@openstreetmap.org</a><br>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports<br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>