Hi Frederik - <div><br></div><div>Perhaps a poor choice of words on my part. I'm actually less concerned with the "official" guidelines and am curious *which* guidelines are referenced here:</div><div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<a href="http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Data_Working_Group" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank"><br>http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Data_Working_Group</a> states that one of the DWG's tasks is:</div>
<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><ul style="vertical-align:baseline;line-height:24px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:16px;font-family:Georgia,'Bitstream Charter',serif;list-style:square;margin:0px 0px 24px 1.5em;padding:0px;border:0px">
<li style="margin:0px;background-color:transparent;border:0px;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Detecting and stopping vandalism and imports that to not comply with guidelines.</li></ul></div></div><div>Can you provide a link to the guidelines the DWG uses? </div>
<div><br></div><div><code>% which guidelines</code> (source code, preferably)</div>
<div><br></div><div>Please note that this guidelines on this page (<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:arial,sans-serif" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines</a>) are the ones cited by DWG members when they request sysadmins to place blocks on accounts that are importing, but are not import-specific.</div>
<div><br></div><div>As for the word "official," it was only a word in the email snippet I forwarded to you. I've included this snippet Clearly, there is some confusion in the community over the matter of which guidelines the DWG uses. (See Pieren's note, where I believe he meant to say, "It is *not* easy to speak on behalf of the community.") I believe the DWG could help reduce this confusion with a little more clarity. It would also help the US import group's efforts to know what they should reference as a baseline for discussion.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks, </div><div>Jeff</div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Pieren <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pieren3@gmail.com" target="_blank">pieren3@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Frederik Ramm <<a href="mailto:frederik@remote.org" target="_blank">frederik@remote.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> But at least if you follow the<br>
> guidelines you have proven that you can read and are willing to engage with<br>
> the community which is a good sign.<br>
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</div>But even when the "community" disagrees with one of the guideline<br>
requirements, like the separate user account in all circumstances, the<br>
DWG will ignore it. So, I find Jeff's statement "DWG's import<br>
guideline" completely true since your message is telling us that the<br>
final word will be in the DWG hands : "following them does not give<br>
you an automatic right to make an import". Most of the requirements<br>
are "common sens", e.g. license compatibility, integration with<br>
existing, interest of the new data. But it is very easy to speak in<br>
the name of the community, even as OSMF board and DWG member. Btw, in<br>
which other system do we find the same person being part of the<br>
legislative, judiciary and executive bodies ?<br>
<span><font color="#888888"><br>
Pieren<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><font size="1">Jeff Meyer<br>Global World History Atlas<br><a href="http://www.gwhat.org" target="_blank">www.gwhat.org</a><br><a href="mailto:jeff@gwhat.org" target="_blank">jeff@gwhat.org</a><br>
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