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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Some comments on what you’re proposing to import<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>landuse=greenfield, building=yes, building=garage, leisure=swimming_pool, barrier=wall, and entrance=yes is an odd set of features to import. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Some buildings are missing, likely from the source data.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There is severe over-noding of circular features, e.g. 71 nodes in a 4.8m diameter swimming pool: <a href="http://maps.paulnorman.ca/imports/review/cigarral/pool.png">http://maps.paulnorman.ca/imports/review/cigarral/pool.png</a>. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Last time it was discussed there was no consensus that buildings should be imported split based on building plan data, e.g. <a href="http://maps.paulnorman.ca/imports/review/cigarral/building.png">http://maps.paulnorman.ca/imports/review/cigarral/building.png</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The couple of building=garages don’t actually appear to be garages<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The landuse=greenfield is still a problem. I’d suggest not including that tag but just including the address information<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ander Pijoan [mailto:ander.pijoan@deusto.es] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 25, 2013 12:42 AM<br><b>Cc:</b> OSM Imports List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Imports] [Talk-es] [Cat2Osm2] Tool for exporting Spanish Cadastre data in OSM suitable format<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi everyone,<br><br>During this weekend some people of the Spanish community have been discussing in which cases would be suitable to import some things from Catastro to OSM.<br><br>Everything that is imported from Catastro will need to be approved by the Spanish OSM organizers and it will only be uploaded with a special account, one for each of the 50 provinces, created for such purpose ("catastro_" + the province's name).<br><br>It is compulsory for the uploader to know well the village he is uploading in order to be able to fix any conflict with the existing data and to complete Catastro's data for special buildings, amenities... Roads won't be imported from Catastro because they're much better in OSM, currently we will only focus on urban data (we will try to simplify a little bit more the rural data Cat2Osm2 exports).<br><br>Also, the files will need to be validated with JOSM and made in small pieces (one for each urban block/square).<br><br>We have made a test with a little urbanization from one of the Spanish list users for you all to see:<br><br><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/15152422">http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/15152422</a><br><br><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?box=yes&bbox=-4.73691%2C39.98901%2C-4.72879%2C39.99551">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?box=yes&bbox=-4.73691%2C39.98901%2C-4.72879%2C39.99551</a><br><br>I would like you to take a look at it, to see if it looks suitable for some villages where there was no information previously.<br><br>Thank you to all.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>2013/1/29 Jaime Crespo <<a href="mailto:jynus@jynus.com" target="_blank">jynus@jynus.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p><div><p>On Jan 29, 2013 12:57 AM, "Paul Norman" <<a href="mailto:penorman@mac.com" target="_blank">penorman@mac.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p>> This license issue is concerning. Are you saying that if someone downloads<br>> the data, converts it to .osm and doesn't do modifications that result can't<br>> be distributed? Can't you just get the .osm file that you would end up<br>> uploading? After all, if there was no OSM data in the area you'd presumably<br>> not alter most of the file.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p>The word in Spanish is more like "altered". It doesn't matter if we get a 100% equivalent. Because of law issues -unrelated to copyright- original files directly from source cannot be shared. However, any transformation -including file format- gives full copyrights to the author of the alteration, which effectively makes them "almost PD+attribution".<o:p></o:p></p><p>Law is strange, I agree :-)<o:p></o:p></p><p>He definitely can share the .osm.<o:p></o:p></p><p>--<br>Jaime Crespo<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Talk-es mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Talk-es@openstreetmap.org">Talk-es@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><br>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'>Ander Pijoan Lamas<br>Research Assistant, Deustotech</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'>Computer Science Engineer</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#666666'>University of Deusto</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'>E-mail: </span><a href="mailto:ander.pijoan@deusto.es" target="_blank"><span style='color:#666666'>ander.pijoan@deusto.es</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#666666'>Phone: +34 664471228<br>in: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=162888312" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=162888312</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>