<div dir="ltr">Hi Paul,<div><br></div><div>Thank you very much for your answer. My comments inline</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Paul Norman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:penorman@mac.com" target="_blank">penorman@mac.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hello,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">A few comments for the proposed UNICEF import<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I’d suggest import=yes on the changeset instead of type=import</span></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div style>Done </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple">
<div><p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">school:cycle is undocumented and doesn’t have an obvious meaning.</span></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div style>I agree it is not documented. Thing is the original data just states whether the school has all the education cycles or not, so if it hosts all the pupil ages or not. It is a useful information, even if not precise. Seems there is nothing already existing among the OSM tagging for this situation. Do you have a better tagging proposition, that cannot be more precise that complete/incomplete? </div>
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<p><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">man_made=borehole is undocumented and virtually unused. Is there nothing better suited?</span></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div style>I will use Brian's suggestion, that is the result of a discussion between the HOT team deployed in Cap-Haitien : </div><div style><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
Agree on most bore_holes being wells. Consider adding pump=no for traditional wells too.</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:pump" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:pump</a><br>
</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I would not add amenity=drinking_water to every feature. But use amenity=drinking_water to "<span style="line-height:19.18402862548828px;font-size:12.222222328186035px;background-color:rgb(249,249,249);font-family:sans-serif">Reseau moderne" </span>instead of man_made=water_supply. If the other features are for drinking then add drinking_water=yes, to avoid using two main tags.</div>
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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Our tagging scheme for health facilities is a mess. The import tagging for health_facility:*=* looks as reasonable as possible given this.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">The WRI data is more complicated, and you might want to consider doing the UNICEF import before it.</span></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div style>Definitely. The data is generally too inaccurate to be imported (eg 300-1000m for the roads from the reality provided by the high res Bing imagery), but can be used as a guide for tracing </div>
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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">The license is stated as CC-BY-SA 2.0 in one place and ODbL 1.0 / DbCL 1.0 in another<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">There are more layers on the WRI site than listed on the wiki page. It would be good to be clear about what is and is not being considered for import<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">There isn’t a license on the WRI page<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">You mention having the users delete the undesired attributes at <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_CAR_WRI_Data#Workflow" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_CAR_WRI_Data#Workflow</a>. You should do this as part of the data conversion.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I haven’t looked at the data itself yet, but in both cases the types of objects proposed are useful ones (health facilities, schools, water, roads and other basic features)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-color:blue;border-left-width:1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt">
<div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=""><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Séverin MENARD [mailto:<a href="mailto:severin.menard@hotosm.org" target="_blank">severin.menard@hotosm.org</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 15, 2013 5:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:imports@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">imports@openstreetmap.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Imports] Import of UNICEF health facilities data for Central African Republic<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class=""><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="">Hi,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=""><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="">As part of the<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Central_African_Republic" target="_blank"> WikiProject in Central African Republic</a> and the HOT support to the political crisis the country is facing (blogpost to come starting an official HOT activation), I completed the preparation of the<a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CAR_Imports" target="_blank"> UNICEF datasets to be imported into OSM</a>, involving Health facilities, education facilities and WASH objects covering more or less the occidental part of the country. Our aim is to import these objects (obviously through specific OSM accounts) after having checked their location one by one on the Bing Imagery. <u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="">As Filip wrote, we would be pleased for any question, suggestion for improvements regarding our methodology:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><ul type="disc"><li class="">the tagging transformation. Personally some of the tags do not please very much<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="">the <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_CAR_UNICEF_WASH#Workflow" target="_blank">workflow</a>, especially how the potential inaccuracy can be informed<u></u><u></u></li></ul></div><div><p class="">
Sincerely,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=""><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="">Severin<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=""><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div><div><div><div><p class=""><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="">On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Filip Rosenkranc <<a href="mailto:frosenkranc@gmail.com" target="_blank">frosenkranc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="">Hi everyone,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=""><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="">we are coming back to you with a proposition to import UNICEF data for health facilities for half of the Central African Republic. We obtained the data during our EUROSHA mission in CAR which had to end prematurely in December.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class=""><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="">We converted the data into an OSM format and created a wiki page describing the plan and all the details: <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_CAR_UNICEF_FOSA" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_CAR_UNICEF_FOSA</a><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="">We are ready for questions, suggestions for improvements and opinions if the data can imported.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=""><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="">If you would like to see an example of an OSM file to upload, I can send it to you by mail. If it should be placed on the Wiki page I will happy for a tip on which server I could place it.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class=""><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="">All the best<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="">For the EUROSHA CAR team<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=""><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">Filip<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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