<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/17 Christian Haeske <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:christian@haeske.net" target="_blank">christian@haeske.net</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div id=":1yz" style="overflow:hidden">The outlines come from the cadastral (property) map. </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style>of course, that's what we are talking about</div><div style><br></div>
<div style> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=":1yz" style="overflow:hidden">There are 1 to 5 separate outlines per place, some are also really small.<br>
That would be too much detail, we don´t want to copy the property map to osm so we would need to simplify the outlines by hand.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style>maybe yes, but that is a common case for imports, you have to merge somehow the data with what is already there. You don't have to do this all alone though, if you feel that it is too much work you can also cut the data into "packages" and let other users help you.</div>
<div style><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=":1yz" style="overflow:hidden">
(If you follow that idea to the end we have to copy all parcels from the property map and map addresses not to buildings but to that fields.)<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style>definitely, yes. At least for Germany, in other regions addresses might be organized in a different manner, but for Germany it is clear that this is the way to go (at least IMHO).</div>
<div style><br></div><div style><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=":1yz" style="overflow:hidden">
Since these places, we are talking about, are rather small, a single point can give you a good idea there this place is.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style>how can you tell from place=locality that this is a small place? The only effective way is to use an area.</div>
<div style><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=":1yz" style="overflow:hidden">
Like " ´Three Oaks´ is near a particular crossing in the woods ..." No one normally knows the exact fields that have that name.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style>I guess few people do know. That's why we make maps, to tell others ;-)</div>
<div> </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=":1yz" style="overflow:hidden">
With a point it would be the same way like these names are presented in walking maps.<br>
On the other hand you have no idea how wide this place spreads.<br>
But regarding the fact that these places are meant for orientaion this should work, like in our example linked in the first posting:<br>
<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.25254&lon=6.36924&zoom=16&layers=M" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.25254&lon=6.36924&zoom=16&layers=M</a><br>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style>you can't know whether this will be rendered or omitted because it conflicts with another feature, the only way to get decent renderings is to have data that tells you how important it is (i.e. that gives you enough information to decide the importance for your particular map).</div>
<div> </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=":1yz" style="overflow:hidden">If we introduce a (new) special tag it will take a long time until these information will find its way on walking maps if it happends at all. (But thats not our main concern)</div>
</blockquote></div><br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style>yes, but we are not talking something rare here, this is a standard feature when it comes to places. Of course, all new tags take some time to get adapted.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra" style><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style>cheers,</div><div class="gmail_extra" style>Martin</div></div>