<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><br></div>Hi,<br><br></div><div>Thank you for comments.<br></div><div><br><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">> What’s the note:ja tag say, and why not just note?</span><br>
e.g.<br></div>"$B9qEZ?tCM>pJs!J9T@/6h2h!KJ?@.(B24$BG/!!9qEZ8rDL>J(B"<br>=<br>$B9qEZ?tCM>pJs(B = "National-Land Numerical Information"<br>$B!J9T@/6h2h!K(B = "(Administrative boundary)" # will change here to (Forest) or (DATASET_NAME)<br>$BJ?@.(B24$BG/(B = "dataset published in 2012"<br>
$B9qEZ8rDL>J(B =
"Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism (MLIT Japan)"<br><br></div>It may be reasonable that is to be switched to "source:ja" or some.<br></div>But previous KSJ2 imported objects all have it as "note:ja", and we had made consensus with the licencer with this way.<br>
<br></div><div>After the another discussion (within JP community, @import, and licencer),<br>changing them to some other tags are worth seeing.<br></div><br><div><div><div>> accuracy<br></div><div>Yes, their accuracy is not so good (1/25000), and has some problems as you mentioned.<br>
<br>1. It does not consider to some amenities.<br>(golf course is considered as "wood" in their dataset.)<br>2. It does not fit with current coastline perfectly.<br></div><div>(JP coastline data is from Yahoo/ALPS import data, so some misfit may occur)<br>
</div><div><br></div>I will try to merge them with current data, while importing.<br><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/8/2 Paul Norman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:penorman@mac.com" target="_blank">penorman@mac.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">A few comments<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The technical side looks reasonable (not overnoded, etc)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I’d probably drop the source_ref tag<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">What’s the note:ja tag say, and why not just note?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">But, the big issue I see is the accuracy is bad.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">A few random examples<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">natural=wood over fields:</span> <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">lat=34.06263&lon=134.05145<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">250m – 500m misalignment between a golf course and the hole in the data: lat=34.03908&lon=134.18371<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">This is a few trees by the side of a road in the middle of a city, not a wood: lat=34.04618&lon=134.58209<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The shape of the unwooded area doesn’t resemble the data: lat=33.80402&lon=134.37063<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Satoshi IIDA [mailto:<a href="mailto:nyampire@gmail.com" target="_blank">nyampire@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 30, 2013 7:26 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:imports@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">imports@openstreetmap.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Imports] Japanese KSJ2 data re-import (to fill up some erased)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>Hi, list.<br><br>We Japanese start making fill up some OSM undereducated import data. (wow! it is 1 year ago!)<br>
Our main targets are KSJ2 data.<br>Detailed information are on wiki page.<br><br><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/Japan_KSJ2_Import" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/Japan_KSJ2_Import</a><br>
<br>And situations are a bit changed, since first import.<br>* attribution mark are changed.<br>** old: add "source information" to EVERY data, even on every NODE. (from data source licensing restriction)<br>** new: add "source information" to way, or relation. details on OSM wiki. (we made consensus with the licencer)<br>
<br>My first attempt is vanished Forest Data.<br>Those data size are ...<br><br>$ ls -la<br>[snip] 39309962 7 24 01:05 a001300020120307.osm<br>[snip] 17931444 7 24 01:04 a001310020120307.osm<br>[snip] 114746548 7 24 01:11 a001330020120307.osm<br>
[snip] 7134953 7 24 01:11 a001360020120307.osm<br>[snip] 9402438 7 24 01:12 a001370020120307.osm<br>[snip] 19781512 7 24 01:14 a001410020120307.osm<br>[snip] 90499434 7 24 01:16 a001440020120307.osm<br>[snip] <a href="tel:81436450%C2%A0%207%2024" value="+81436450724" target="_blank">81436450 7 24</a> 01:17 a001460020120307.osm<br>
[snip] 46156811 7 24 01:19 a001470020120307.osm<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">They are converted from shape file with ogr2osm.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>And fixed Huge multipolygon problem.<br>
* I cut them up by mesh polygon.<br>* sample: <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/m8nap6umdwexg9b/a001360020120307.osm" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/m8nap6umdwexg9b/a001360020120307.osm</a><br><br>All comments will be appreciated.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Regards.<br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>-- <br>Satoshi IIDA<br>mail: <a href="mailto:nyampire@gmail.com" target="_blank">nyampire@gmail.com</a><br>twitter: @nyampire <u></u><u></u></p>
</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Satoshi IIDA<br>mail: <a href="mailto:nyampire@gmail.com" target="_blank">nyampire@gmail.com</a><br>twitter: @nyampire
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