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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">the problem frequently comes with
redistribution terms. it's one of the reasons<br>
why i have no plans to bring in any of the transit data here in
the Capital District<br>
of NY; the CDTA terms are really shaky when you get to the
redistribution part.<br>
<br>
you need a clear statement that they are willing to relicense
their data in terms<br>
compatible with the ODbL<br>
<br>
richard<br>
<br>
On 8/30/13 10:24 AM, Derek Kniffin wrote:<br>
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<p>Is this good enough, or should he be more explicit?</p>
<p>-Derek</p>
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From: "Jackson, Dan" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Dan.Jackson@rtd-denver.com">Dan.Jackson@rtd-denver.com</a>><br>
Date: Aug 30, 2013 8:18 AM<br>
Subject: FW: RTD's GIS Data in OpenStreetMap<br>
To: "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:derek.kniffin@gmail.com">derek.kniffin@gmail.com</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:derek.kniffin@gmail.com">derek.kniffin@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: "Trujillo, Lisa" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Lisa.Trujillo@rtd-denver.com">Lisa.Trujillo@rtd-denver.com</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Derek,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Please see <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rtd-denver.com/Developer.shtml"
target="_blank">http://www.rtd-denver.com/Developer.shtml</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>If the intention is to provide
a free service to the public, RTD’s
Transit Data </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>can be published on any
interactive web map, similar to what
others have done.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Google Maps – Transit, at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/transit/#mdy"
target="_blank">http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/transit/#mdy</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Bing Maps – Transit, at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.bing.com/maps/transitdefault.aspx"
target="_blank">http://www.bing.com/maps/transitdefault.aspx</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Nokia/HERE – Transit, at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.nokia.com/global/apps/app/here-transit/"
target="_blank">http://www.nokia.com/global/apps/app/here-transit/</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Feel free to contact me if you
have any questions.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Thanks,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Dan
Jackson</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Lead Architect</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Regional Transportation
District</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>1560 Broadway Suite 610
Denver, CO 80202 | RTD MC: FAS-61</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:303.299-6132" value="+13032996132"
target="_blank">303.299-6132</a> (O) | <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:303.299.6197"
value="+13032996197" target="_blank">303.299.6197</a>
(F) | <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:303.913.8185" value="+13039138185"
target="_blank">303.913.8185</a> (C)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span>
Trujillo, Lisa <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jackson, Dan<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Fwd: RTD's GIS Data in
OpenStreetMap</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dan can you answer this?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Lisa Trujillo</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">RTD Acting Public Relations
Manager</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:303-241-1235" value="+13032411235"
target="_blank">303-241-1235</a> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Derek Kniffin <<a
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href="mailto:derek.kniffin@gmail.com"
target="_blank">derek.kniffin@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date:</b> August 26, 2013, 1:23:54 PM MDT<br>
<b>To:</b> "Trujillo, Lisa" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Lisa.Trujillo@rtd-denver.com"
target="_blank">Lisa.Trujillo@rtd-denver.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> <b>RTD's GIS Data in OpenStreetMap</b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
<br>
I'm pretty sure you're the wrong contact for my
inquiry, but you were <br>
the closest I see to "tech support" on RTD's contact
page, so feel
free <br>
to redirect me to the right people, if necessary.<br>
<br>
I'm writing to inquire about the copyright limits of
RTD's GIS data. I <br>
found a page where I can download the data <br>
(<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://gis.rtd-denver.com/MapServer/datadownload.aspx"
target="_blank">http://gis.rtd-denver.com/MapServer/datadownload.aspx</a>)
but it says that <br>
the data is copyrighted. What I'd like to do is
import that GIS data <br>
into a service called OpenStreetMap (OSM for short).
It's a free, open <br>
data source for world-wide maps, that is used for
many other services <br>
such as Foursquare, MapQuest, and Craigslist. See <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://osm.org"
target="_blank">http://osm.org</a>
and <br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap"
target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap</a>
for more details.<br>
<br>
Currently, there are many RTD stops and routes
mapped in OSM, but <br>
nowhere near all of them. It'd be a great if RTD's
source GIS data could <br>
be imported. However, the OSM data is licensed under
the Open Database <br>
License (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ODBL"
target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ODBL</a>),
and
so I will <br>
probably need to get a license for OSM to use RTD
data.<br>
<br>
Just to be clear, I do not represent OSM. I am one
individual inquiring <br>
about this information. If a larger discussion needs
to be had, there <br>
are OSM foundations that I can contact to help me
with that.<br>
<br>
Please let me know if it would be possible to get
permission to use this <br>
data in OSM.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Derek Kniffin</p>
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