<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">2014-02-04 Frederik Ramm <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:frederik@remote.org" target="_blank">frederik@remote.org</a>></span>:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
As you probably know, OSM doesn't value data over community. Where<br>
imports are concerned, we usually look at whether there's a local<br>
community to "digest" the data that has been imported, to fix it where<br>
it's wrong, to update it in the future.<br>
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Importing data "instead" of having a community is not something we<br>
normally do ("there's nobody there to map anything anyway so in order to<br>
make the map more useful let's at least import data").<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Well in my humble opinion imports stimulate people to contribute to OpenStreetMap. Not so many people want to start drawing from scratch their town/village, and imported address point are sending message: "hey, we have some data, maybe you can add outlines or POI?".</div>
<div><br></div><div>Please note that we don't have big community, mainly people in biggest cities, so in some areas there is literally no one to contribute. We should wait months or years for someone to show up?</div>
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This is also the reason we prefer "community imports" where perhaps one<br>
person or a small group of people prepares data for import, but the<br>
actual import is done by people local to the area, who know the place<br>
and know what they're doing.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>And what if local people don't have experience? And what's the difference between local people and rest of people when all we do is importing addresses? What advantages do local people have in this case? I simply don't see the point.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Of course local people can fix potential fixes but again, for me it doesn't match with imports.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
What I'm seeing here is one single person importing huge amounts of data<br>
for one city after the next, all over Poland.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Just because he's experienced and have enough time to do it. What's wrong with it?</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
If this is not the case, then I think you should stop importing data.<br>
Has this been discussed in the Polish community?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Many, many times and there was always positive reactions to imports. What is more, people have nothing against replacing their data with imports. And it's logical because imported data are most likely more accurate.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers, Paweł</div><div><br></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr">Paweł Marynowski<div><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Yarl" target="_blank">User:Yarl</a><div><div><a href="http://openstreetmap.org.pl/" target="_blank">Stowarzyszenie OpenStreetMap Polska</a></div>
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