<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div id="yiv8439102637" class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;" class=""><div id="yiv8439102637yui_3_13_0_11_1398759072461_5" class="" style="">Hello Rob and Mikel,</div><div id="yiv8439102637yui_3_13_0_11_1398759072461_5" class="" style=""><br style=""></div><div id="yiv8439102637yui_3_13_0_11_1398759072461_5" class="" style="">Since you game me your advice, i have been working on the data and I have finally Georectified them. You can find them here <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/home/Rectified%20Dar%20Buildings" class="" style="">https://www.dropbox.com/home/Rectified%20Dar%20Buildings</a> for more advice on how to do the import in
Open Street Map.</div><div id="yiv8439102637yui_3_13_0_11_1398759072461_5" class="" style="">Thanks for the advice and i would be happy to get these data into the OSM.</div><div id="yiv8439102637yui_3_13_0_11_1398759072461_14" class="" style=""> </div><div id="yiv8439102637yui_3_13_0_11_1398759072461_15" class="" style=""> </div><div id="yiv8439102637yui_3_13_0_11_1398759072461_8" class="" style="">Best,</div><div id="yiv8439102637yui_3_13_0_11_1398759072461_8" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">Msilikale Msilanga<br clear="none" class="" style="">+255717506053<br clear="none" class="" style="">Skype: msilikale05</div><div id="yiv8439102637yui_3_13_0_11_1398759072461_8" class="" style=""><br></div><div id="yiv8439102637yui_3_13_0_11_1398759072461_8" class="" style=""><br></div><div class="" id="yiv8439102637yqt14042" style=""><div class="" id="yiv8439102637yui_3_13_0_11_1398759072461_9" style="display:block;"> <div class=""
style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"> <div class="" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr" class="" style=""> <font size="2" face="Arial" class="" style=""> On Sunday,
April 27, 2014 5:43 PM, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nickerson@gmail.com> wrote:<br clear="none" class="" style=""> </font> </div> <div class="" style=""><div id="yiv8439102637" class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><div dir="ltr" class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><div class="" style="">Msilikale,</div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">I've checked against the GPS data we hold in OpenStreetMap (there is a particularly good GPS track of someone walking round the edge of what looks like a cricket pitch) and can confirm that there is a bad offset in the building data. I expect it's either been traced against offset imagery or a re-projection somewhere along the line hasn't been quite right.<br clear="none" class="" style="">
<br clear="none" class="" style=""></div>I also have concerns about the quality and age of the data.<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div>As I don't feel able to resolve the offset issue (it's not my area of expertise) I'm unable to help you any more. Someone else on the mailing list may be able to help, but at some point you need to make a judgement about the data quality with your local community.<br clear="none" class="" style="">
<br clear="none" class="" style=""></div>Rob<br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" id="yiv8439102637yqt56701" style=""><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""><div class="" style="">On 25 April 2014 19:23, Rob Nickerson <span dir="ltr" class="" style=""><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rob.j.nickerson@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:rob.j.nickerson@gmail.com" class="" style="">rob.j.nickerson@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none" class="" style="">
<blockquote class="" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;"><div dir="ltr" class="" style="">Yes, when I looked at it in QGIS the other day I also found an offset. I'm not great with projections so it might be solvable with ease or could be tricky.</div>
<div dir="ltr" class="" style="">As for building shapes, the small section I looked at seemed OK. Not to the standard I aim for when tracing, but better than other mappers tracing standard (building tracing is a tedious task). Personally I think its up to the local community as it's them who will be doing any clean up.</div>
<div dir="ltr" class="" style="">Definitely need to keep existing OSM buildings/tags.</div><span class="" style=""><font color="#888888" class="" style="">
</font></span><div dir="ltr" class="" style="">Rob</div><div class="" style=""><div class="" style="">
<div class="" style="">On 25 Apr 2014 04:30, "Mikel Maron" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mikel_maron@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mikel_maron@yahoo.com" class="" style="">mikel_maron@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class="" style=""><blockquote class="" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;">
<div class="" style=""><div class="" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;"><div class="" style=""><span class="" style="">Hi Msilikale, Rob</span></div><div class="" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">
<span class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></span></div><div class="" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span class="" style="">Msilikale, thanks for the initiative of sharing the Dar building footprint data set (which btw is posted at </span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" style="font-size:10pt;" target="_blank" href="https://www.dropbox.com/sh/oe08t8tirw7qtuk/AiOhiUBEN5" class="">https://www.dropbox.com/sh/oe08t8tirw7qtuk/AiOhiUBEN5</a>)<span style="background-color:transparent;" class="">. It is certainly comprehensively covering the whole metro region, and beyond, massive! Actually, can you explain the boundary of data set? Seems like the urban expanse to the south is suddenly cut.</span></div>
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<span class="" style="">I took a look at this data set, compared to what's presently in OpenStreetMap. Certainly much greater coverage in the
government data set. But many of the buildings in OSM have other valuable tags. Any import process would want to retain these.</span></div><div class="" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">
<span class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></span></div><div class="" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span class="" style="">Additionally, there appears to be a consistent offset in this data set. I'm not sure if it's an artifact of the reprojection, or in some misalignment in the georeferencing of the source imagery for this building data set (I assume it was digitized from imagery); or if there is misalingment in Bing imagery in
Dar (though I suspect not, both Google and Bing align decently well).</span></div><div class="" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;">
<span class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></span></div><div class="" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,;"><span class="" style="">Looking at the geometries of the building footprints themselves, some look decently accurate relative to the imagery, but in a great majority of cases there is not correspondence, in a number of ways. Sometimes an individual building is broken up into several. Other times, the footprint is partially correct, but then in other parts wrong. And in other cases,
there's clearly been new construction. This is mostly looking in the Central District. If I look at some place like Tandale, there seems to be even less correspondence (to be fair, OSM is not much better here).</span></div>
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<span class="" style="">If this data were to be imported, it would need to be looked at very carefully, piece by piece. It couldn't be done in bulk I think. Could be a big detailed job. And I wonder, would it end up being more work to try to get
this data set to fit the existing OSM data, and imagery, than simply organizing to trace buildings directly from imagery. Could even possibly be an interesting microtasking exercise, ala </span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://buildinginspector.nypl.org/" class="" style="">http://buildinginspector.nypl.org/</a></div>
<div class="" style=""></div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">In any case, Msilikale, worth reading through the Import guidelines to lay out some of the other considerations, and good next steps, like documenting this data set and deliberation in the wiki. <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" style="font-size:10pt;" target="_blank" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines" class="">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines</a></div>
<div class="" style=""> </div><div class="" style="">Best</div><div class="" style="">Mikel</div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style=""><span style="font-size:10pt;" class="">* Mikel Maron
* <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="" style="" href="">+14152835207</a> @mikel s:mikelmaron</span><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div style="display:block;" class=""> <div class="" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;">
<div class="" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr" class="" style=""> <font face="Arial" class="" style=""> On Monday, April 21, 2014 5:45 PM, Rob Nickerson <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rob.j.nickerson@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:rob.j.nickerson@gmail.com" class="" style="">rob.j.nickerson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class="" style="">
</font> </div> <blockquote class="" style=""> <div class="" style=""><div class="" style=""><div dir="ltr" class="" style=""><div class="" style="">Hi Msilikale,<br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style="">Thanks for uploading the Tanzania, Dar es salaam buildings data to dropbox. I've downloaded it and had a quick look. The tags look like they are not needed with the only one that *may*
be useful being called "BIN" - I have no idea what it is. Do you know?<br clear="none" class="" style="">
<br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">I will split the file into smaller sections for you and give you a link to the download. Please give me a few days. I will aim to get it done by the end on next weekend. If not then feel free to contact me to remind me.<br clear="none" class="" style="">
<br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style="">Rob<br clear="none" class="" style=""></div><div class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""><br clear="none" class="" style=""></div></div></div><br clear="none" class="" style="">_______________________________________________<br clear="none" class="" style="">Imports mailing list<br clear="none" class="" style=""><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Imports@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:Imports@openstreetmap.org" class="" style="">Imports@openstreetmap.org</a><br clear="none" class="" style="">
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