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<p>Thanks guys - This is my first crack at an import and I really appreciate your advice and help. I'll set a wiki up and check in thereafter.<br>
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<p>Cheers,<br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Elliott Plack <elliott.plack@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 25, 2014 10:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Andy Allan<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Clark Trivers; Imports OpenStreetMap.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Imports] Ottawa Bike Parking Import</font>
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<div dir="ltr">Andy,
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<div>Thanks for the response. Please forgive my enthusiasm, and you're quite right that proper documentation is a must, as well as considering the existing data. I ran a query and there are quite a few existing installations on OSM. Map: <a href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/5b3">http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/5b3</a></div>
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<div>I should start by saying I only jumped in in the middle of the project to help Clark with the data. I've never even been to Ottawa. I had assumed that some due diligence had already taken place, like checking for existing data etc. If it were my project,
I would have ran the query, got the existing data, and compared that before even posting anything here.</div>
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<div>And I was wrong to say it was a "few clicks." That is never true. :) If the data was conflated, verified, and accurate, it would be, but there'd be much work (and clicks) to get to that point.</div>
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<div>Clark: Definitely write up a wiki on <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page</a>. Detail the source of the data, licenses, community support and how to tackle existing data.</div>
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<div>Kindly,</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Andy Allan <span dir="ltr">
<<a href="mailto:gravitystorm@gmail.com" target="_blank">gravitystorm@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<span class="">On 24 September 2014 22:31, Elliott Plack <<a href="mailto:elliott.plack@gmail.com">elliott.plack@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Clark,<br>
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> Quick tip, always reply all to these list emails so it goes back into the<br>
> list.<br>
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> Definitely use the PNG! I'll license it as CC0.<br>
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> For approval we should wait a few days for others to comment. Also we'll<br>
> want to check if there's any existing data that would be duplicated.<br>
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> I can do the import for you too, no problem. It's just a few clicks.<br>
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> Finally you'll want to write a wiki page on the OSM wiki. Just summarize<br>
> what you said in the first email.<br>
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</span>I think you've got it back-to-front - there's no way that anyone can<br>
review this *before* you write the wiki page!<br>
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Also, I just had a quick look. From your image I count at least 7 bike<br>
parking images within a few metres of the intersection of Bank and<br>
Queen Street, but when I look at google street view I see only bikes<br>
chained to trees and some railings outside a bank - further away<br>
there's some actual parking infrastructure but it's not clear to me<br>
how they all correspond and what counts as "parking" here. Again,<br>
questions to answer on a wiki page are required.<br>
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There's already existing bike parking in Ottawa, so there will need to<br>
be some sort of merging/de-duplication.<br>
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And finally, best not so say "It's just a few clicks" because<br>
honestly, that's never the case, and secondly, it's not the attitude<br>
we're trying to promote!<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Andy<br>
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