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<p>Hi Dewi,</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 27.09.2016 um 07:46 schrieb Dewi
Sulistioningrum:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Walter,
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<div>Before I plan to upload the boundaries import data for
Surabaya, I have received some feedback and helped by <a
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Garcia</a> who has expertise in correcting boundaries and
has previously worked with us in settling Jakarta boundaries.</div>
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yes, but is no anwers about your experence. The script of Ivan looks
fine and i'll check it with real data - of course without uploading.<br>
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<div>The current raw file has the boundary relations already,
which I think is quite accurate. I will send the link to the
raw gis data when it's uploaded on github.</div>
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It's not a question of <b>data quality</b>, it's a question about
the <b>technical way</b> adding boundary relations as multipolygons
to osm - without damaging the "neighbourhood" and without deleting
the old releations with their history before. Ivan's script seems to
do the job in an empty area but does not respect the outer borders
("neighbourhood") and the history.<br>
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We had a lot of problems during such a task in Mexico Nov. '15 till
March '16 . See
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They even damaged the international boundaries of the USA, Guatemala
and Belize. We had to stop them and they had to change a lot in
their working process. <b>Now</b> they know how to do this. ;)<br>
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<div>In regards to the current boundaries in Surabaya, we had
contacted those who mapped them previously but they were
unable to provide the data license / approval and I believe
our data which is formally attained from Indonesian government
is more accurate. <br>
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This was only an example of what did go wrong and may go wrong
again. At least at the edges of the import area.<br>
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<div>I might need to clarify that HOT Indonesia, which is where
I work now, has not focused its work yet on the issue of data
import due to some problem attaining the data from Indonesian
government and in explaining about the sensitivity of it to
Indonesian OpenStreetMap Community. Thank you very much for
your input, we plan to work more on correcting this issue
following OpenStreetMap procedures of validating existing data
and improving data quality in the incoming project.</div>
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btw: Working with HOT - not OSM? Talking of OpenStreetMap Community
as an extra organisation? Strange to me. You are member of the OSM
Community too. But that is another "problem".<br>
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regards<br>
walter<br>
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