<html><head></head><body><div style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div><div><div>Note that in parallel to this thread, there were some threads already opened on Talk-Ca about this</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2017-September/008056.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">2017-09-28 [Talk-ca] Building Canada 2020 initiative</a><br></div><div><br></div><div id="ydp81874848enhancr_card_9080048949" class="ydp81874848yahoo-link-enhancr-card ydp81874848yahoo-link-enhancr-not-allow-cover ydp81874848ymail-preserve-class ydp81874848ymail-preserve-style" style="max-width:400px;font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Segoe UI, Arial, sans-serif;" data-url="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2017-September/008056.html" data-type="YENHANCER" data-size="MEDIUM"><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2017-September/008056.html" style="text-decoration:none !important;color:#000 !important;" class="ydp81874848yahoo-enhancr-cardlink" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><table class="ydp81874848card-wrapper ydp81874848yahoo-ignore-table" style="max-width:400px;" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td width="400"><table class="ydp81874848card ydp81874848yahoo-ignore-table" style="max-width:400px;border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(224, 228, 233);border-radius:2px;" width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td><table class="ydp81874848card-info ydp81874848yahoo-ignore-table" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); 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reacted to these threads saying how this is irrealistic because of
license problems and yes the dimension of such a project. We are a small
community and have other priorities.</div><div><br></div><div>As the
Import list is concerned, I would be surprised that many Licenses
obtained in a short time and concrete Import propositions being made.</div><div><br></div><div>The
problem is more about Organizational mapping, and roles of the OSM community and the partners and thier interrelation. In this case, partners are
taking the initiative, make publicity for mapathons, create a wiki page
and place the Canada OSM community in an incomfortable situation. In
september, I had to insist that the OSM community had not been
previously informed of the presentation in Ottawa and this Initiative to
add all buildings by 2020 with municipalities Building imports without prior licenses negociated !<br></div><div><br></div><div>We have seen
often how the systematic mapathons organized are bringing a lot of
«Instant contributors» that stay for a few hours, not well supported by
organizers, those organizers not always with significative OSM
experience. In the last talk-ca thread, MapBox takes the initiative to
invite canadian universities to organize mapathons for the OSMGeoWeek
in november. <br></div><div><br></div><div class="ydpae4ec39dsignature"><div>Good marketing. But to my
point of view, the OSM Canada community should not be a subcontractor of
external organizations that have a lot more capacities and budgets. We
should instead stick to our priorities and the development of the
community. And our role is not to repair the «broken jars».<span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;"></span></div><div><br></div><div><br><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;"></span></div><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;"><font face="garamond, new york, times, serif">Pierre </font><br></span></div></div>
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Le mercredi 18 octobre 2017 18:31:20 HAE, Stewart C. Russell <scruss@gmail.com> a écrit :
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<p><font size="+1">Hi - just as an initial heads-up, Statistics
Canada - effectively, the Canadian Federal Government - wishes
to have all of Canada's buildings on OSM by 2020. This will
entail major imports of municipal data and superhuman efforts on
the part of the LWG to keep track of and approve all of Canada's
many data licences. No imports have been started, but there's an
outline of the plan here:<br>
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<p><font size="+1"><a class="ydp8acadf60yiv5117733260moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Building_Canada_2020" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Building_Canada_2020</a></font></p>
<p><font size="+1">I just wanted to make sure folks had a bit more
warning (and hopefully, more community input) than when the
Ottawa data went in.</font></p>
<p><font size="+1">cheers,<br>
Stewart<br>
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