<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">First, thanks for opening the data and for starting an initiative to import all finnish bus stops into OSM.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Did you consider using osm_conflate / cf_audit for importing? It would greatly simplify an effort to conflate the data, and would provide a ready-made framework for adjusting bus stops position to imagery before the import is uploaded.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ilya<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 24 Oct 2018, at 14:58, Digiroad-info <<a href="mailto:info@digiroad.fi" class="">info@digiroad.fi</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" class="">Hi everyone!<br class=""></span></div><p style="margin: 0px 0cm 6pt; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class="">There have been several conversations in the Finnish OSM forums about importing data from the Digiroad database to OSM. Digiroad<span style="background-color: white; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""> is a national road and street database administrated by the </span>Finnish Transport Agency<span style="background-color: white; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""> (FTA). Inspired by the conversations we have created a bus stop import pilot project. The purpose of the pilot is to complement OSM’s bus stop data with data from </span>Digiroad<span style="background-color: white; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">.</span></span></p><p style="margin: 0px 0cm 6pt; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class="">Digiroad<span style="background-color: white; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""> is the main database for public transport stop information in Finland.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">According to a rough estimate, 60% of Finnish bus stop data is missing from the OSM database. In this project, the missing data will be provided to the OSM community for further development and application purposes.</span></span></p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="background-color: white; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">In this import, OSM stops will be treated as master data. Thus, OSM stops will not be removed or edited in anyway. To avoid overlapping data, the Digiroad bus stop data will be filtered using common ID-numbers and locations (for more info, please read our wiki!)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="background-color: white; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">Data is planned to be imported in</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>two phases. In the piloting phase, we plan to test all the processes with a small test set data. The test set will be imported during October or November 2018 and the exact time of the import depends on the OSM community’s feedback.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class="">After the import, the Digiroad operator organizes a mapathon event 5<sup class="">th</sup><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>of November at the GIS Expo in Helsinki together with the local OSM community. The aim of the mapathon is to move the Digiroad stops from the original center line geometry location to the actual bus stop shelter or pole location, and more tags can also be added in process.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: white; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class="">In the second phase, the Digiroad bus stop data gathered from the rest of Finland will be imported after successful and well-received import of the test data. Similar mapathons than in GIS-expo will be organized also after the main import. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">This import has been planned in the Finnish Transport Agency's (FTA) Digiroad operating service and together with Mr.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-GB" class="">Erno Mäkinen (Gispo Oy),</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>who has been the consultant for the project regarding preliminary OSM community opinion.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">Data license is OK. OSM-community has a written permission from the FTA to import the data.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);" class="">Wiki page for the project:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://bit.ly/DR_OSMwiki" target="_blank" class=""><span lang="EN-GB" class="">http://bit.ly/DR_OSMwiki</span></a><br class=""><br class="">More about the Digiroad:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><a href="https://www.liikennevirasto.fi/web/en/open-data/digiroad#.W9BddOllLXE" class="">https://www.liikennevirasto.fi/web/en/open-data/digiroad#.W9BddOllLXE</a></div><p style="margin-top: 0px; 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font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Imports mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="mailto:Imports@openstreetmap.org" style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Imports@openstreetmap.org</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;" class=""><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports" style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration: none;" class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>