<HTML><BODY>Hello Frederik,<br><br>> If something cannot realistically mapped by humans, then it cannot realistically be maintained by humans either, and then the whole point of having it in OSM is moot.<br><br>Absolutely agree, that's why in this import effort we combine what humans do best (judging what's best for humans and preventing from uploading obvious blunders and noise) with what computers do best (boring tracing of uniform objects).<br><br>There are numerous examples on OSM when tools were used for tracing natural objects. Look for lakes in Siberia; just an example: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/28156205" data-mce-href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/28156205">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/28156205</a> There were 330 000 objects traced by Scanaerial, a tool that was good for tracing water surfaces but not good enough for other types of nature. We now have better tools, and better data to start from. But we still care about the end result and its usefulness for humans. After all, I started participating in this effort because I wanted a good map of nature for my summer vacation in Sweden's remote areas, and for my weekend-warrior biking tours.<br><br><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid #0857A6; margin:10px; padding:0 0 0 10px;">
Среда, 17 апреля 2019, 11:09 +03:00 от Frederik Ramm <frederik@remote.org>:<br>
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On 4/16/19 00:03, Grigory Rechistov via Imports wrote:<br>
<div class="mail-quote-collapse">> Let's be realistic — it is unlikely that we will be able to manually map<br>
> forests in reasonable time in a country sized 1500×500 km by tracing<br>
> imagery by hand. We already allow machines to do many repetitious tasks<br>
> about the OSM dataset for us, why not let them help us with land cover?<br>
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This is NEVER a good argument in OSM.<br>
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If something cannot realistically mapped by humans, then it cannot<br>
realistically be maintained by humans either, and then the whole point<br>
of having it in OSM is moot.<br>
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Bye<br>
Frederik<br>
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