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On 3/12/2020 1:47 PM, Mike Thompson wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:50 AM Greg
Troxel <<a href="mailto:gdt@lexort.com"
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> Brian May <<a href="mailto:bmay@mapwise.com"
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> Being able to access a public record is one thing, and
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> copyright issues are another. The page does not mention
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> it's the same thing in Massachusetts.</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">Exactly, "publicly available" may not
be the same as "public domain." For example, most books are
copyright, but they are publicly available (anyone can buy
them or check them out from the library and read them, but you
can't copy them and redistribute them).</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">The Colorado open records law actually
does allow, but doesn't require, state agencies to copyright
some things. In this case the agency is neither claiming
copyright, nor are they stating the data is in the public
domain. However, if the statement from the agency is
acceptable to the OSM community, I will proceed with creating
the plan and ask for community feedback on it.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">We (OSM-US) should really have a state
by state guide on open records laws per state. That would make the
"license check" process easier. Look up the state, get an answer.
At least a quick answer to start from. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">This site seems to do a decent job of
explaining public records per state in a standardized format - <a
href="https://www.rcfp.org/open-government-guide/">https://www.rcfp.org/open-government-guide/</a></div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">But the state statutes are where you
find the details and final answers. If copyright is not mentioned
at all in the statutes, then its public domain, right?<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">In my view, if the state statutes do
not allow governments operating within the state to copyright
public records OR don't mention it at all, then you don't need to
ask the government data provider for permission at all, like in
Florida. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">In this case, sounds like Colorado
allows governments to copyright, but this government chose not to.
From what I've seen, the only time they do try and exert copyright
is if they are trying to make money on the data. And even then, it
seems like there's ways of skirting that, e.g. grabbing data from
a public facing ArcGIS Server. <br>
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This seems like a topic for the OSM US Board to provide direction
on.<br>
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