<html><head></head><body><div class="ydp7e085682yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Hi Kyle,<br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Do you have a plan to retrace the crevasses as they move over time ?<br></div><div class="ydp7e085682signature"><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(0, 0, 191);font-weight:bold;"> <br><font style="background-color: inherit;" face="garamond, new york, times, serif">Pierre </font><br></span></div></div>
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                    Le samedi 23 octobre 2021, 20 h 53 min 12 s UTC−4, Kyle Hensel <k.y.l.e@outlook.co.nz> a écrit :
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<p class="ydpfc8d0869yiv1998851460MsoNormal">Hi, I’m not sure what you mean by ‘geometrically incompatible features’</p> 
<p class="ydpfc8d0869yiv1998851460MsoNormal">As we discussed in that changeset, I can’t see this ‘damage to the database’ that you’re talking about.</p>
<p class="ydpfc8d0869yiv1998851460MsoNormal">  </p> 
<p class="ydpfc8d0869yiv1998851460MsoNormal">The link you referred to is a bit confusing beacuse it shows every node/way/relation in OSM, rendered in the same colour.
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<p class="ydpfc8d0869yiv1998851460MsoNormal"><a shape="rect" href="https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1cjT" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1cjT</a> is a view of the same area, with streams and crevasses coloured differently.
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<p class="ydpfc8d0869yiv1998851460MsoNormal">From this map you can see that the waterways are logically mapped, as are crevasses.</p>
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<p class="ydpfc8d0869yiv1998851460MsoNormal">The red lines may look ‘messy’, but this is because there are many crevasses within the Canada Glacier.
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<p class="ydpfc8d0869yiv1998851460MsoNormal">If you’re unfamiliar with this type of terrain, see <a shape="rect" href="https://wiki.osm.org/File:Parque_estatal_Chugach,_Alaska,_Estados_Unidos,_2017-08-22,_DD_94.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">
https://wiki.osm.org/File:Parque_estatal_Chugach,_Alaska,_Estados_Unidos,_2017-08-22,_DD_94.jpg</a></p>
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<p class="ydpfc8d0869yiv1998851460MsoNormal">Hope this clarifies the situation</p>
<p class="ydpfc8d0869yiv1998851460MsoNormal">  </p> 
<p class="ydpfc8d0869yiv1998851460MsoNormal">Best regards,</p>
<p class="ydpfc8d0869yiv1998851460MsoNormal">Kyle</p>
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<p class="ydpfc8d0869yiv1998851460MsoNormal" style="border-color: currentcolor; border-style: none; border-width: medium; padding: 0cm;"><b>From: </b><a shape="rect" href="mailto:osm@imagico.de" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Christoph Hormann</a><br clear="none">
<b>Sent: </b>Saturday, 23 October 2021 23:47<br clear="none">
<b>To: </b><a shape="rect" href="mailto:imports@openstreetmap.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">imports@openstreetmap.org</a><br clear="none">
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Imports] Hydrographic data import from LINZ</p>
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<p class="ydpfc8d0869yiv1998851460MsoNormal">On Saturday 23 October 2021, Kyle Hensel wrote:<br clear="none">
> Hello,<br clear="none">
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> In New Zealand we are planning to expand the import of data from Land<br clear="none">
> Infomation New Zealand (LINZ).<br clear="none">
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I like to point out that this import proposal is part of a series of <br clear="none">
imports that has proven to be problematic in results as previously <br clear="none">
pointed out (non-successfully) to the importer:<br clear="none">
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<a shape="rect" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/111427028" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/111427028</a><br clear="none">
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In particular<br clear="none">
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> We will use the same system as the topographic data import and<br clear="none">
> address import, so every single feature will be reviewed using a<br clear="none">
> modified version of the RapiD editor.<br clear="none">
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has been proven to be incorrect as evidenced by the speed of the <br clear="none">
imports:<br clear="none">
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<a shape="rect" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/kylenz_linz/history" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/kylenz_linz/history</a><br clear="none">
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and the resulting damage to the database, littering it with <br clear="none">
geometrically incompatible features, like for example visible here:<br clear="none">
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<a shape="rect" href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/-77.6183/162.8670&layers=D" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/-77.6183/162.8670&layers=D</a><br clear="none">
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Christoph Hormann<br clear="none">
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