<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Jason,</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for your answer.</div><div><br></div><div>> Most other NYC boroughs use the borough name as the city name in addresses. </div><div>> A value of "New York" for addr:city is only valid for addresses in the borough of Manhattan.</div><div><br></div><div>the good news: Nominatim - recalculating the city value from the boundary :-) </div><div>addr:city=Astoria example: <a href="https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/ui/details.html?osmtype=W&osmid=375930682&class=amenity">https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/ui/details.html?osmtype=W&osmid=375930682&class=amenity</a></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px">boundary:administrative (city) = New York<br>boundary:administrative (suburb) = Queens County<br>boundary:administrative (suburb) = Queens<br><br></blockquote><div>Cheers,</div><div> Imre</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Jmapb <<a href="mailto:jmapb@gmx.com">jmapb@gmx.com</a>> ezt írta (időpont: 2022. ápr. 19., K, 22:48):<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>On 4/19/2022 3:07 PM, Imre Samu wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">for me, ( living in Europe ) this NY city name is
strange <b>addr:city=Astoria</b><br>
<div>( based on: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astoria,_Queens" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astoria,_Queens</a> </div>
<div> "Astoria is a neighborhood in the western portion of the
New York City borough of Queens." )</div>
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<div>on the other hand </div>
<div>- I have found a lot of other similar POI -s ( <a href="https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1hNB" target="_blank">https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1hNB</a> “'addr:city'=Astoria
in "New york"” ) </div>
<div>- but I have found : <span style="font-family:monospace;font-style:inherit;font-weight:inherit;color:rgb(74,74,74);font-size:12px">addr:city
="Queens" or addr:city ="New York"</span> values </div>
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<div>Strange :-) </div>
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<p>New York mapper here. In the borough of Queens, it's normal to
use neighborhood names as city names in addresses. <br>
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<p>Most other NYC boroughs use the borough name as the city name in
addresses. A value of "New York" for addr:city is only valid for
addresses in the borough of Manhattan.</p>
<p>Yes, it's a mess! NYC had a full address import in 2013-2014 (see
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/NYC_Buildings_Addresses" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/NYC_Buildings_Addresses</a>
) which omitted the addr:city tag -- presumably because no
appropriate value was available in the city's address dataset. But
of course mappers often add addr:city, and often incorrectly. <br>
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<p>For Queens addresses, I don't know of any authoritative way to
determine the best value for the addr:city tag, other than local
knowledge of neighborhood boundaries. (It's possible to use the
United States Postal Service website, but unfortunately this is
*not* open data.)</p>
<p>We NYC mappers really need to crack this nut at some point, and
document it in the wiki. Then we can move on to figuring out what
to do about the hyphenated housenumbers in Queens addresses! But
we probably shouldn't do it here on the Imports list.</p>
<p>Cheers, Jason<br>
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