[josm-dev] Please don't delete http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/HaitiLessonsLearned

Dirk Stöcker openstreetmap at dstoecker.de
Thu Jan 28 14:37:38 GMT 2010


On Thu, 28 Jan 2010, Marko Mäkelä wrote:

>> you're free to create trac tickets as you wish and you already did. This

This was meant as a "how to do". I don't intend to continue this.

>> page is by no means a replacement of trac ticketing system and  I ask
>> you again not to delete it.

You know the rationale behind my comment and the comment remains valid 
even if you removed it again. I will not delete the page now (which I 
never considered), but it will not stay there longer than approx. 2 
months.

>> Because I did so. I don't have to justify.

No, but if WIKI pages don't match the concept, than you also need to live 
with the consequences.

> Sorry for jumping in, but I have a suggestion for you.  I understand Dirk's
> points, but I do see some merit in the notes too.  I can think of three
> places for the notes that could be more suitable or appropriate:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/diary
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:*
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti

All three alternatives seem to be fine. I personally think the second is 
best.

I'm not the WIKI admin of wiki.openstreetmap.org, so I do not care what is 
stored there (even if sometimes I'm forced to cleanup there as well due to 
to many people refering to outdated stuff). But I remember the 
openstreetmap wiki was in bad need for administrators some time ago which 
essentially had an eye on the stuff. For JOSM I fullfill this task and 
even if there aren't a lot rules, a few are.

I immediatelly delete SPAM. Everything else gets a note what will happen 
and how to fix it. And yes, regarding administration sometimes I'm a 
dictator. I'm in OpenSource business for about 20 years (more than half of 
my life) and got some experience. This means the few rules I adhere to are 
usually well funded (and if not can be changed by facts easily).

There are many things in JOSM development I do not like, but need to 
accept as people (developers and users) have different opinions. On the 
other hand you and others also need to accept when I do not accept some 
things (even if you don't fully understand the reasons).

So please either create Trac tickets or move the page to a place which I 
don't care about. Probably best is to do both.

Ciao
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