Sounds interesting. We could use their server for the file structure that you proposed. We haven't really decided how we are going to implement/host the PD map database.<br><br>Of course, they can use our data for whatever they want.<br>
<br>- Kari<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/11/7 Sunburned Surveyor <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sunburned.surveyor@gmail.com" target="_blank">sunburned.surveyor@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Guys,<br>
<br>
Below is my response to a message that was sent in reply to my posting<br>
an inquiry about the OSGeo hosting our PD repository. It wasn't<br>
exactly what I was expecting, but it may be a promising lead. It<br>
sounds like this non-profit would be interested in helping us set up<br>
our infrastructure.<br>
<br>
I know we would need more details about Bob's organization before we<br>
made a decision. I wanted to send this message here so you guys can<br>
chew it over. I don't want to make this type of decision all on my<br>
own.<br>
<br>
Richard, Kari, Joseph...What are your thoughts?<br>
<br>
Landon<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Bob,<br>
<br>
You wrote: " While we're interested in any type of publicly available<br>
data, we're particularly interested in any datasets that would apply to<br>
emergency management or situational awareness."<br>
<br>
I would think that a street map would be very applicable for emergency<br>
management, at least for things like evacuation planning and emergency<br>
response.<br>
<br>
You wrote: "I'm part of a non-profit recently put together to try to<br>
help promote this same sort of data sharing, we want to take it a bit<br>
further than you describe though, by allowing the option of setting up<br>
data feeds for WMS/WFS services. These resulting services would be<br>
intended as seamless coverages and that are classified by type and not<br>
necessarily by data owner."<br>
<br>
I have to be careful about this. We decided not to set up a complete<br>
replication of the OSM server, because we don't want to create a fork.<br>
We're just looking for a pool that would allow us to collaborate on our<br>
public domain mapping efforts.<br>
<br>
However...Since our data would be in the public domain, your non-profit<br>
could easily vacuum our repository to create a WMS. That wouldn't be a<br>
problem at all. In fact, this type of use case is why our group wants to<br>
release the data PD in the first place.<br>
<br>
<br>
If you think our small group could work out a hosting arrangement with<br>
your non-profit given our restriction against creating a web map that<br>
would essentially compete with/fork OSM, please let me know.<br>
<br>
Landon<br>
<br>
<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Bob Basques [mailto:<a href="mailto:Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us" target="_blank">Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us</a>]<br>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:16 AM<br>
To: Landon Blake; <a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Data Hosting For OSM PD?<br>
<br>
Landon,<br>
<br>
I'm part of a non-profit recently put together to try to help promote<br>
this same sort of data sharing, we want to take it a bit further than<br>
you describe though, by allowing the option of setting up data feeds for<br>
WMS/WFS services. These resulting services would be intended as<br>
seamless coverages and that are classified by type and not necessarily<br>
by data owner.<br>
<br>
The general idea is to set up services with an eye towards dissolving<br>
political boundaries while still allowing the data custodians to manage<br>
their particular chunk of the data. We've also put quite a lot of work<br>
into the data organizational aspects as well as authentication services<br>
for sensitive data. We also applied some effort to providing a measure<br>
of metadata related to the publication process.<br>
<br>
Our intent is to provide technical and infrastructure services that<br>
allow for a very easy and usable publication process for anyone that<br>
wants to share their (spatially referenced) public domain data.<br>
<br>
While we're interested in any type of publicly available data, we're<br>
particularly interested in any datasets that would apply to emergency<br>
management or situational awareness.<br>
<br>
If interested, I'm available offline to talk further, just email me<br>
directly.<br>
<br>
bobb<br>
<br>
<br>
>>> "Landon Blake" <<a href="mailto:lblake@ksninc.com" target="_blank">lblake@ksninc.com</a>> 11/07/08 12:12 PM >>><br>
I've been working with a few of the folks from the Open Street Map. We<br>
are a group within the OSM community that is very interested in setting<br>
up a repository or pool to host the map data we contribute in a separate<br>
space, before it is uploaded to OSM. We'd like to do this so we can<br>
collaborate on and release our data in the public domain. This avoids a<br>
lot of the licensing problems and challenges that OSM is currently<br>
struggling with.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
We've got a tentative folder structure nailed down, at least for the<br>
time being.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I'd like to know if there would be any interest at the OSGeo in<br>
providing some web server space for our repository. We don't need<br>
anything fancy. No database, no scripting, no special software. We just<br>
need a place to put folders and files.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I'd be happy to discuss the proposed repository structure in more detail<br>
if the OSGeo was interested.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I can start the repository with some space on my own site, but I think I<br>
will quickly become overwhelmed by the data and bandwidth requirements.<br>
If the OSGeo isn't interested our group can look into getting support<br>
from a University or other organization.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
At any rate, I thought this might be a good opportunity for the OSGeo to<br>
get involved in the free data side of the FOSS GIS equation.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Landon<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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