On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM, John Wilbanks <<a href="mailto:wilbanks@creativecommons.org" target="_blank">wilbanks@creativecommons.org</a>> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
In response to some questions on whether or not the addition of easter<br>
eggs (false data) to the OSM database might make it a "Creative Work"<br>
and thus subject to copyright law...I asked around (5 lawyers, 4 of them<br>
practicing, one law professor). The answer held close to my<br>
expectations, which is that no answer would be found that gave this<br>
debate a magic conclusion.<br>
<br>
In the US, the answer is pretty clearly no - this is from the classic<br>
Feist v. Rural Telephone case<br>
(<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feist_Publications_v._Rural_Telephone_Service" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feist_Publications_v._Rural_Telephone_Service</a>).<br>
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</blockquote><div><br><br>This case doesn't seem remotely relevant to the question of Easter-eggs. It rests on originality of the arrangement of facts. In what way does it have anything to do with this question?<br>
<br>80n<br><br><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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In the UK and the EU, the answer is murkier. The UK and the EU give more<br>
credit to the sweat of the brow argument to protect a database, but that<br>
doesn't come from the fake entries - it comes from the work required to<br>
put together the good stuff, not the fake stuff.<br>
<br>
In short, I don't think it changes the contours of the argument either<br>
way. It's a way of figuring out if someone is copying, but it's not part<br>
of the legal decisionmaking.<br>
<br>
GSDI was an interesting event. In preparing my comments it was<br>
gratifying to see how much true public domain global spatial data there<br>
is. In some conversations where I referenced the OSM debates there was<br>
the idea that the OSM locational traces could be in the public domain<br>
while letting some of the higher level work sit under another license.<br>
That would put some minimal, and clearly factual, data into the PD under<br>
the banner of the project.<br>
<br>
Anyhow, as usual, YMMV.<br>
<br>
jtw<br>
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