<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Peter Miller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:peter.miller@itoworld.com">peter.miller@itoworld.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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</div>My company (Ito World Ltd) needs to be able to combine Share-Alike data from<br>
OSM with copyright data from other sources ...</blockquote><div><br>IMHO "Other sources" are usually incompatible with SA.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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software and produce rendered images or conclusions that we can sell (and<br>
not have to give away for free). Without an expectation that the new licence<br>
will allow this then ITO would not be participating in the project. For the</blockquote><div><br>PD, CC-SA and presumably the new license all allow this.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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avoidance of doubt I fully expect commercial users of the data to be<br>
required to make their improvements to the OSM dataset itself back to the<br>
community and we are trying to get a set of words together to ensure that<br>
these distinctions are as clear as they can be in the licence (although<br>
there will of course be grey areas on the boundaries, which is why the Use<br>
Cases are so important).</blockquote><div class="Ih2E3d"><br>Mathematicians warn us against Use Cases. With PD, no Use Cases are needed and legal fees are less.<br><br>
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</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I remind councils and other people interested in the project that there is<br>
no reason why they can't pay people to work on OSM. There is some funny idea<br>
that because it is an open-source project and that the results are free that<br>
people have to do it in their spare time. This is clearly not the case with </blockquote><div><br>Much more true than funny.<br><br>What's also true is that they don't update OSM because they don't see any benefit. This will offcourse change if OSM becomes either<br>
* the dominant online map (like wikipedia being the dominant online encyclopedia) OR<br>* an upstream source for other maps, which isn't very likely under SA.<br><br></div></div><br>