Actually I think the duck test <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test</a> is the simplest way of approaching this problem. If someone treats something as a database then its a database. Otherwise its a produced work.<br>
<br>They can call it whatever they like when the publish it. The duck test kicks in when someone uses it.<br><br>80n<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Frederik Ramm <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:frederik@remote.org">frederik@remote.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi,<br>
<div class="im"><br>
Mike Collinson wrote:<br>
> "If it was intended for the extraction of the original data, then it<br>
> is a database and not a Produced Work. Otherwise it is a Produced<br>
> Work.<br>
><br>
> We can clearly define things that are USUALLY Produced Works: .PNG,<br>
> JPG, .PDF, SVG images and any raster image; a map in a physically<br>
> printed work.<br>
><br>
> Database dumps are usually not Produced Works, e.g a Planet dump."<br>
<br>
</div>I think it was 80n who, in an older discussion about this, pointed out<br>
that it may not be helpful to focus on the *intent* of someone doing<br>
something. Someone might make an SVG file that contains the full<br>
original OSM data, but without the intent of extracting data, and<br>
someone else then uses that as a database. But I guess we don't need to<br>
get all upset about this because if a database is made from the Produced<br>
Work then ODbL again applies through the reverse engineering clause...<br>
<br>
Bye<br>
Frederik<br>
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