I doubt its binding. Strictly speaking FOI requests are for information not opinions, but its something no-one seems to pay much attention to. There might be an estoppel/legitimate expectation argument but I doubt it.<br><br>
This is off the top of my head of course.<br><br>Francis<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/9/14 TimSC <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mapping@sheerman-chase.org.uk">mapping@sheerman-chase.org.uk</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
To legal-talk,<br>
<br>
I was trying to think of a way to clarify the situation on copyright<br>
expiry of OS maps. One interpretation is the 50 years copyright starts<br>
when the map was last updated. Another is the copyright clock starts on<br>
the year of the copyright notice. To get an answer, what better way than<br>
to ask ordinance survey themselves? Under the freedom of information, I<br>
asked about a specific example (detailed below).<br>
<br>
The response seems to indicate OS's view is the copyright expires 50<br>
after the year of the copyright notice. This is good news as it makes<br>
many maps available for our use. The next question that occurs is can OS<br>
reverse their view or is an FOI binding in some way. (Note the<br>
disclaimer of the email.) Any thoughts from the community on this would<br>
be good...<br>
<br>
If my question or their answer was ambiguous, we can always do another<br>
FOI request.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
TimSC<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Customer Services<br>
Sent: 14 September 2009 12:05<br>
To: Tim Sheerman-Chase<br>
Subject: RE: Freedom of Information. Reference: SAP 71979<br>
<br>
Dear Mr Sheerman-Chase<br>
<br>
Ordnance Survey reference: 71979<br>
<br>
Thank you for your email dated 30 August 2009 requesting: "I have a<br>
sheet that has the following markings: "Made and published by the<br>
Director General of the OS, Chessington, Surrey 1960 Reprinted with<br>
minor changes 1965 Crown copyright (C) 1960""<br>
<br>
"Which date is used to calculate when the copyright will lapse? Would<br>
this either be either 1st Jan 2011 or 1st Jan 2016 or another date?"<br>
<br>
We are pleased to provide you with the following information with regard<br>
to your request:<br>
The Crown copyright subsisting in a hard copy printed OS map will<br>
subsist from the end of the calendar year in which it was published<br>
until the end of the period of 50 years from the end of the calendar<br>
year in which it was published, meaning 1 January 2011.<br>
<br>
Please note that your enquiry has been processed to Freedom of<br>
Information guidelines. As all requested information has been provided,<br>
we have determined that in all the circumstances of this case the Public<br>
interest consideration (section 17 FOIA) is not applicable in this<br>
instance.<br>
<br>
If you are unhappy with our response, you may raise an appeal to our<br>
Appeals Officer at:<br>
<br>
Complaints Team<br>
Customer Service Centre<br>
Ordnance Survey<br>
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SOUTHAMPTON<br>
SO16 4GU<br>
<br>
Please include the reference number above. The Appeals Officer will<br>
ensure that the process has been followed correctly, questioning any<br>
decisions taken regarding the original response and recommending<br>
disclosure of additional information if appropriate.<br>
<br>
Thank you for your enquiry.<br>
<br>
Yours sincerely<br>
<br>
Tony Gray<br>
<br>
Freedom of Information Pracitioner<br>
Ordnance Survey<br>
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Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this<br>
email.<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Tim Sheerman-Chase [mailto:**********************]<br>
Sent: 30 August 2009 19:10<br>
To: Customer Services<br>
Subject: Freedom of Information. Reference: SAP 71979<br>
<br>
FOI Enquiries,<br>
<br>
I have a question under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 regarding<br>
the crown copyright of OS map sheets. I have a sheet that has the<br>
following markings:<br>
<br>
"Made and published by the Director General of the OS, Chessington,<br>
Surrey 1960<br>
Reprinted with minor changes 1965<br>
<br>
Crown copyright (C) 1960"<br>
<br>
Which date is used to calculate when the copyright will lapse? Would<br>
this either be either 1st Jan 2011 or 1st Jan 2016 or another date?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Tim Sheerman-Chase<br>
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