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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>>If you
think the position of this restaurant is a fact then you really need to watch
the Horizon documentary where Alan Davis tries to measure the length of a piece
of string: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>> </span><a
href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00574dv"><span lang=EN-US>http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00574dv</span></a><span
lang=EN-US><br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Any fact has a
margin of error, an “error in representation” is something else as creativity.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Gert Gremmen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>-----------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'><img border=0 width=150 height=50 id="Afbeelding_x0020_1"
src="cid:image001.gif@01CB8C7E.081BF910" alt=Osm><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span><b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:green'> Before printing, think about the environment.</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span></b><span
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legal-talk-bounces@openstreetmap.org
[mailto:legal-talk-bounces@openstreetmap.org] <b>Namens </b>80n<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:15 PM<br>
<b>Aan:</b> Licensing and other legal discussions.<br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Database and its contents<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Grant Slater <<a
href="mailto:openstreetmap@firefishy.com">openstreetmap@firefishy.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 23 November 2010 13:23, Grant Slater <<a
href="mailto:openstreetmap@firefishy.com">openstreetmap@firefishy.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> On 23 November 2010 13:04, Ed Avis <<a href="mailto:eda@waniasset.com">eda@waniasset.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> As always, the standard reality check applies: if you believe that
maps or the<br>
>> data they represent are not covered by copyright, please start
large-scale<br>
>> photocopying of some commercial maps, or copying the information from
them into<br>
>> another format that you then publish.<br>
>><br>
><br>
> Here is some data:<br>
><br>
> <node id="915100779" lat="51.5798222"
lon="-0.3341762" version="2"<br>
> changeset="6058195" user="Walter Schlögl"
uid="78656" visible="true"<br>
> timestamp="2010-10-16T14:40:13Z"><br>
> <tag k="name" v="McDonald's"/><br>
> <tag k="amenity" v="fast_food"/><br>
> <tag k="cuisine" v="burger"/><br>
> </node><br>
><br>
> The position is a fact, name is a fact, cuisine they serve is a fact,<br>
> along with the other details.<o:p></o:p></p>
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If you think the position of this restaurant is a fact then you really need to
watch the Horizon documentary where Alan Davis tries to measure the length of a
piece of string: <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00574dv">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00574dv</a><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>> Facts cannot be copyright. Creative Commons licences
are not designed<br>
> for factual information. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>><br>
> Creativity is used in the above data.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Typo, creativity is *NOT* used in the above data.<o:p></o:p></p>
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>Whereas on the rendered map<br>
> <a href="http://tile.osm.org/18/130828/87084.png" target="_blank">http://tile.osm.org/18/130828/87084.png</a>
I would argue that creativity<br>
> has been used to choose the icon, position the text/icon and create<br>
> the "halo" around the text/icon, which is all contained in the
mapnik<br>
> stylesheet.<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
> Grant<br>
><br>
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