<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 4 January 2011 15:49, Richard Fairhurst <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:richard@systemed.net">richard@systemed.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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Rob Myers wrote:<br>
> On 04/01/11 15:05, Richard Fairhurst wrote:<br>
</div><div class="im">>> OS OpenData is AIUI compatible with ODbL and the latest Contributor<br>
>> Terms.<br>
> [citation needed]<br>
> (<a href="http://fandomania.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/xfiles1.jpg" target="_blank">http://fandomania.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/xfiles1.jpg</a>)<br>
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</div>:)<br>
<br>
I keep meaning to sit down and write a long blog post about this.<br>
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== ODbL ==<br>
<br>
The OpenData licence requires attribution, and for that attribution to be<br>
maintained on subsequent derivatives. ODbL provides that. (My reading of<br>
ODbL 4.3 is that "reasonably calculated" imposes a downstream attribution<br>
requirement on Produced Works: after all, if you wildly license your<br>
Produced Work allows it to be redistributed without attribution of sources,<br>
you haven't reasonably calculated that any person "exposed to" it will be<br>
aware of the database and the licence.)<br>
<br>
As it happens OS is planning to move to the Open Government Licence, and<br>
this has an explicit compatibility clause with any ODC attribution licence.<br>
(It also has sane guidance on attribution, e.g. "If it is not practical to<br>
cite all sources and attributions in your product prominently, it is good<br>
practice to maintain a record or list of sources and attributions in another<br>
file. This should be easily accessible or retrievable.")<br>
<br>
Personally I find it helpful to consider OSM as a Derivative Database of an<br>
ODbL-licensed OS OpenData; this makes it easy to follow through the<br>
attribution requirements for anything OSM-derived that contains a<br>
substantial amount of OS OpenData.<br>
<br>
== Contributor Terms ==<br>
<br>
AIUI the attribution requirement is also compatible with CT as of the 1.2.2<br>
revision (<a href="https://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_933xs7nvfb&pli=1" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_933xs7nvfb&pli=1</a>). The<br>
CTs need a bit of a polish for style (Francis Davey has made good<br>
suggestions here) but the intention is clear enough.<br>
<br>
The Rights Granted section (2) now begins "Subject to Section 3 and 4<br>
below". The "and 4" is new (added at my request).<br>
<br>
Section 4 is a promise of attribution, as required by the OpenData licence.<br>
So you are not being asked to grant OSMF any rights that the OpenData<br>
licence doesn't give you.<br>
<br>
cheers<br>
Richard<br></blockquote><div><br>Thank you for the details Richard. However... on this one I have decided to stay out of any legal discussions and just
wait for a clear statement directly from the licensing group. To date I haven't had that clarification and private discussions with a member of the group seems to indicate that the OS would need to adopt Open Government License for it to work and I can find no statement on the web to say that they are doing that..<br>
<br>As soon as I have confirmation from the license working group then I will accept the CTs and will then concentrate on getting the foundation to sort out its Articles of Association.<br><br><br>Regards,<br><br><br>Peter<br>
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