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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Mikel</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I cant see anything in the Contributor Terms which
state that if you are only adding "<FONT size=3
face="Times New Roman">non-substantial and non-systematic </FONT>" data then it
is OK to import non-compatible data. So one question is, will
the import be carried out through an account which has agreed to the CT's, in
which case the import would be a breach of the CT's.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Secondly, obviously I don't know what licence the
original data was licensed under, but I would be worried that
you might breaching the terms of that licence by importing the
data into OSM if the terms of that licence and the OSM licence are
incompatible. Obviuosly the OSM community can give their views on whether
importing the data is acceptable to OSM, but we cant give view on whether it
would be acceptable to the original licence holder.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>David</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mikel_maron@yahoo.com href="mailto:mikel_maron@yahoo.com">Mikel
Maron</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=legal-talk@openstreetmap.org
href="mailto:legal-talk@openstreetmap.org">legal-talk@openstreetmap.org</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 26, 2011 3:18
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [OSM-legal-talk] Import from
Ushahidi Libya Instance</DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,new york,times,serif; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN>You
may be aware, UN OCHA has been coordinating a Ushahidi instance to map reports
from the the Libya Crisis. <A href="http://libyacrisismap.net/"
target=_blank>http://libyacrisismap.net/</A></SPAN>. OSM is the base
map.<BR><BR>They've geocoded about 150 places and POI, and have recruited OSM
folks to conflate this list with OpenStreetMap.<BR><SPAN><A
href="http://internal.libyacrisismap.net/volunteers/team-geolocation/coordinates-database"
target=_blank>http://internal.libyacrisismap.net/volunteers/team-geolocation/coordinates-database</A></SPAN><BR><BR>The
issue is that the source for the geocoding is listed, but not always licensed
under a license compatible with OSM.<BR><BR>Even if locations were derived
from non-compatible license sources, my thinking has been that this is
"non-substantial and non-systematic", and therefore might be permissible to
import. Data is only collected based on select needs to geocode reports. The
numbers are just over 150. According to the Substantial Guideline of the ODbL,
an extract from OSM like this would not trigger the viral terms of the
license.<BR><SPAN><A
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Substantial_-_Guideline"
rel=nofollow target=_blank><SPAN id=lw_1306359274_0
class=yshortcuts>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Substantial_-_Guideline</SPAN></A></SPAN><BR> <BR>Question
is then twofold. One, we haven't yet adopted the ODbL, so how much could a
guideline apply. And two, how does the concept of non-substantial apply to
importing data? I think there's a good chance it's ok, in which case all data
could be brought in. The alternative would then be to exempt particular POI
from conflation, or simply geocode them again using fully clear
sources.<BR><BR>Thoughts?<BR>Mikel<BR>
<DIV> </DIV>== Mikel Maron ==<BR>+14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
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