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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=NL link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Angelika,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Please note that OSM is currently distributed under the CC-BY-SA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>license. There are plans to create a ODBL version of this database as a<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>“derived work”, but the required modifications to the database have not<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>yet started and the community has not yet agreed on a date for this to<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>happen. Until the ODBL version is available I suggest that you do<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>not apply OSM data but on an experimental basis, as the availability<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>of the data under ODBL is not yet assured.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I suggest that you put some pression on the new OSMF board –being newly<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>elected this week- to publish a schedule for the switch-over so as to allow<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>you -and others- to build a serious business model with OSM.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Until then I suggest you to refrain.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Note that I am just a member of the community, and in no<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>way speaking for the whole of it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Gert Gremmen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>-----------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><img width=150 height=50 id="Afbeelding_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.gif@01CC6D54.C4F4CDC0" alt=Osm><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:green'> Before printing, think about the environment.</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>Van:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Angelika Voss [mailto:angelika.voss@iais.fraunhofer.de] <br><b>Verzonden:</b> Wednesday, September 07, 2011 11:13 AM<br><b>Aan:</b> legal-talk@openstreetmap.org<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL for publications comparing OSM with areference dataset<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hello again,<br><br>for one more use case I would like to get your oppinion regarding the ODbL. Your answers are relevant for our research, and could be relevant for Muki Haklay and others who compare OSM with other reference datasets to analyse the quality, like completeness of objects and thematic attributes, locational precision, correctness of thematic attributes. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Use case "Publication on the quality of OpenStreetMap relative to a reference set"</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>A publication assesses the quality of the OSM road network by matching the OSM objects with those of another road network, the reference set, and then compares the matching objects. The document contains a thematic OSM map, where the style (colour, breadth, …) of the OSM roads visualizes a compared quality. The publication could also contain charts and other maps where the quality is displayed on grid cells. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Is it correct that only the thematic map with OSM road objects is a produced work? So only the small table containing the identifiers of the visible OSM road objects and their quality is a derivative database? And is this table insubstantial so that it need not be provided under ODbL? <br>In particular, underlying our publication is a much bigger table that contains a matching between the identifiers of the two road networks, as well as their attributes, which are to be compared, e.g. road category, name, speed limit, oneway, pedestrian? Is it true that this table need not provided together with the publication?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Once more, thank you for your comments,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>angi voss</span><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Dr. Angi Voss<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Fraunhofer IAIS<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Knowledge Discovery<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Schloss Birlinghoven<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>D-53754 Sankt Augustin<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>phone: 02241 / 142726<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Fax: 02241 / 42726<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.iais.fraunhofer.de">http://www.iais.fraunhofer.de</a><o:p></o:p></pre></div></body></html>