Hi there, <div>I also have these concerns, and am really interested in the resolution.</div><div>mike<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Pavel Pisa <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ppisa4lists@pikron.com" target="_blank">ppisa4lists@pikron.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear OSMF responsible,<br>
<br>
even recent discussions about ODBl compatibility with Wikipedia<br>
problems shows that there can be problems or complications<br>
with ODBL only licensed data.<br>
<br>
I.e imagine quite realistic scenario. I like to map<br>
marked hiking paths in our area. The guideposts texts<br>
are critical information. They are usually acquired<br>
as photos and they are hold in Wikipedia commons.<br>
We have guideposts in map as well, it would worth<br>
to run script to extract already know guideposts locations,<br>
match them with commons and run update and preparation of<br>
commons pages. But this in ODBl language derivative<br>
of database. But pages and text (i.e. locations)<br>
in commons are CC-BY-SA. Same if amenity water<br>
is imported etc. We would be in the fact forbidden<br>
to use our own data.<br>
<br>
More people would feel much more safe if they know that<br>
they can access their future contributions under CC-BY-SA<br>
as well. Now all data are CC-BY-SA compatible.<br>
<br>
Other uncertainty source is OSMF silence to questions<br>
and worry about license and mainly contributions<br>
terms abuse.<br>
<br>
When I have expressed my concerns to OSMF agent<br>
convicing me to agree to new CT (2011-02-15),<br>
he agreed that my remarks are valid and would be<br>
discussed at OSMF. Then no reply come.<br>
Same for my concerns in email to legal-talk list<br>
at 2012-04-02 when I stepped in discussion with<br>
Pavel Machek.<br>
<br>
Please, take extralicenses as the first class citizen.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://timsc.dev.openstreetmap.org/extralicenses/" target="_blank">http://timsc.dev.openstreetmap.org/extralicenses/</a><br>
<br>
Keep that information in primary OSM database and allow<br>
JOSM to indicate CC-BY-SA compatible changes in history<br>
same as CT is shown now. I believe that many people would<br>
be happy with that and they would provide contributions<br>
through OSM instead of abandon OSM and contributing<br>
to FOSM.<br>
<br>
By the way, I am leaving for hiking without Internet<br>
access for more than two weeks now. I expect to have<br>
even some tracks and data to contribute into some<br>
open community map.<br>
But according to actual CT wording I am almost losing<br>
the right to be heard in terms or license changes vote<br>
because limit to respond is three weeks. And I and even<br>
more some other people are going for month or even more<br>
to the distant areas.<br>
<br>
Same problem with not limiting frequency<br>
and period for discussion about CT and license<br>
changes.<br>
<br>
By the way, how is is possible that on page<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/new" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/new</a><br>
<br>
is not directly seen which agreement would be<br>
demanded from me. I looked at registration<br>
to find actual CT wording. ODBl pointer is<br>
hidden in "privacy policy" and no word about CT<br>
at the first glimpse. But there should be<br>
direct pointer from "new" page to the CT which<br>
are demanded from users for about one year<br>
already. So one registers and only then he<br>
is confronted with fact that he has to agree<br>
to someting he/she would not know in advance.<br>
<br>
Best wishes,<br>
<br>
Pavel Pisa<br>
<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>James Michael DuPont<br>Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova <a href="http://flossk.org" target="_blank">http://flossk.org</a><div><a href="http://flossk.org" target="_blank"></a>Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion <a href="http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com" target="_blank">http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com</a><br>
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