<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">geocoding patient data, client data, suppliers data, members data</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">With this kind of sensitive private data, the database would not be redistributed, hence not invoking share-alike.</span></div><div> </div><div>* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px;
padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Alex Barth <alex@mapbox.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Licensing and other legal discussions. <legal-talk@openstreetmap.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:43 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Talk-us] press from SOTM US<br> </font> </div> <br>
+1 for examples. I'm working on pulling some together.<br><br>The like for like principle overlooks that data submitted to geocoders can be sensitive for privacy or IP reasons. Think of geocoding patient data, client data, suppliers data, members data in a scenario where a geocoder is only used for a single client. Definitely a scenario where we as MapBox would be able to offer an OSM based solution.<br><br>On Oct 25, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Frederik Ramm <<a ymailto="mailto:frederik@remote.org" href="mailto:frederik@remote.org">frederik@remote.org</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Hi,<br>> <br>> On 25.10.2012 17:30, Mikel Maron wrote:<br>>> I don't see the issue with companies complying with like-for-like. There<br>>> is some logistical burden, but that could be offloaded by geocoding<br>>> services.<br>> <br>> +1 - I think we're all (including LWG) still waiting for concrete use case where somebody says: This is how I want to use
OSM for geocoding, this is what I believe the ODbL would mean for me, and this is why it is unacceptable for my business.<br>> <br>> I don't know if it has already been said, but there is a *vast* amount of use cases where we need on-the-fly geocoding - user enters address and is zoomed to location - which are totally unproblematic as no derived database is even created.<br>> <br>> In many other use cases I can think of, the ODbL's requirement may mean an inconvenience and may mean that users can't be just as secretive as they would like to be, but still sufficiently secretive as not to hurt their business.<br>> <br>> I'm willing to hear concrete examples but I think that talk of "giving up" and "too much at stake" sound like OSM was unsuitable for geocoding which in my opinion it clearly isn't!<br>> <br>> Bye<br>> Frederik<br>> <br>> -- <br>> Frederik Ramm ## eMail <a ymailto="mailto:frederik@remote.org"
href="mailto:frederik@remote.org">frederik@remote.org</a> ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> legal-talk mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:legal-talk@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:legal-talk@openstreetmap.org">legal-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk" target="_blank">http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk</a><br><br>Alex Barth<br>http://twitter.com/lxbarth<br>tel (+1) 202 250 3633<br><br><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>legal-talk mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:legal-talk@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:legal-talk@openstreetmap.org">legal-talk@openstreetmap.org</a><br>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk<br><br><br> </div> </div> </blockquote></div> </div></body></html>