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The use of the term "Database" in an intellectual property context
has essentially nothing to do with the CS/IT concept of a database.
The statement on the wiki is correct, and Alexs statement was a bit
misleading.<br>
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I don't think this discussion has made any progress since the last
time it came up. I'm still waiting for a concrete (geocoding) use
case which we would reasonably want to allow without triggering
share-a-like. <br>
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Simon<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 28.02.2013 05:54, schrieb Jake
Wasserman:<br>
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cite="mid:CAF4usUpJ_P49i3bSrR-M_pfxfcU2ebyauJ2Xki4EthqpC582ug@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Alex,
<div>I'm a little confused. The way I interpret your comment,
merely storing ODbL and non-ODbL data in the same database
triggers share alike. But on the use cases wiki page (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/License/Use_Cases">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/License/Use_Cases</a>),
Case 4 says:</div>
<div>'It makes no difference whether you store the data sets
separately, or together in the same "database" software, whether
that is a RDBMS, NOSQL, filesystem or anything else. So long as
the other data isn't derived from OSM, the result is a
Collective Database, not a Derivative Database.' In other
words, storing ODbL and non-ODbL data together does not trigger
share alike.</div>
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<div>Just trying to get some clarification.</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Jake</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Alex
Barth <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:alex@mapbox.com" target="_blank">alex@mapbox.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">Rob - as long as you don't mix ODbL data and
other data in the same database, ODbL's share alike cause
doesn't kick in. So using the OSM tiles on your web site
doesn't mean that data in your web site is affected. I
recommend reading the ODbL, it's pretty clear that way <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/"
target="_blank">http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/</a>
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<div>(And yes, I know, an open license shouldn't be that
long and that complicated, but that's another story).</div>
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On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Rob <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:smarttiki@gmail.com"
target="_blank">smarttiki@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div>>> It would appear that any and all
data associated with a<br>
>> website or mobile app becomes fair game
once OSM data is used.<br>
<br>
> What? No. No, that isn't true. I'm no fan
of share-alike but that is<br>
> trivially disprovable.<br>
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Where is the line in the sand?<br>
<br>
For example I have a website which is driven by
several databases whichinclude everything from
website members info t<br>
<br>
I then integrate OSM into the website by including
interactive map tiles, address searches
(geocoding), POI placement / inclusion, routing,
etc...<br>
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On Feb 27, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Richard Fairhurst
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:richard@systemed.net"
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> WhereAmI wrote:<br>
>> It would appear that any and all data
associated with a<br>
>> website or mobile app becomes fair
game once OSM<br>
>> data is used.<br>
><br>
> What? No. No, that isn't true. I'm no fan
of share-alike but that is<br>
> trivially disprovable.<br>
><br>
> Richard<br>
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