<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">FWIW, I agree with you that it should not be a case of copyright infringement to obtain uncopyrightable facts from copyroghted sources.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">
Here's a blog post that even argues that it is OK to trace from Google's satellite imagery: <a href="http://www.systemed.net/blog/legacy/100.html">http://www.systemed.net/blog/legacy/100.html</a><br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">
But OSM does not operate this way. We aim to be whiter than white, and not dabble in legal shades of gray. Even if *you* think that it is legally OK to copy from someone, you shouldn't do it unless you have *permission* to do so, or if a court decision says *exactly* that it is OK to copy stuff for OSM.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br>On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Paulo Carvalho <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paulo.r.m.carvalho@gmail.com" target="_blank">paulo.r.m.carvalho@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi,</div><br><div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
You may find more discussion of this topic on this OSM help page:<br><a href="https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/710/can-i-use-google-streetview-to-help-create-maps" target="_blank">https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/710/can-i-use-google-streetview-to-help-create-maps</a>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I see many people agree that we can use the images to access reality. This does not mean we're using the images themselves, which is copyrighted work.</div><div> </div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
Also, somebody has asked Google regarding Street View. Here is Ed Parsons'<br>answer:
"Checking the odd street names is OK. But every street name I would suggest<br>><i> would represent a bulk feed."</i></blockquote><div><br></div><div>With all due respect, this is plain wrong. Anyone who dealt with databases know that a bulk load is an automated insertion of copious ammount of data. Browsing photos to manually write down signs and house numbers is far from bulk load.</div>
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And "bulk feed" refers to the Terms of Service:
2(e) [You may not] use the Products in a manner that gives you or any other<br>><i> person access to mass downloads or bulk feeds of any Content, including but
</i>><i> not limited to numerical latitude or longitude coordinates, imagery, and
</i>><i> visible map data
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Hope that helps.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>It says "imagery". I'm not telling to download and use the images elsewhere. Reading a sign in SV photos and taking a note is different from copying them. </div>
</div><div><br></div><div>I'm still not convinced.</div><div><br></div><div>thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Paulo</div></div></blockquote></div></div></div>