<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 3:30 AM, Simon Poole <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:simon@poole.ch" target="_blank">simon@poole.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
Luis<br>
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The LWG has spent considerable time discussing the "geocoding issue", so<br>
it is not as if we've ignored the subject.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Didn't mean to imply that work hasn't been done! I've read all the public threads I can find :) But the wiki doesn't reflect that, and the wiki is where most "outsiders" are going to go to try to figure out the question, since it is most googleable, linked to from many places, etc.</div>
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So, yes, I think it might be fair to say that the LWG has punted on the<br>
geocoding issue at least for now, to spend its time on issues which are<br>
more likely to be resolved.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think it would be helpful if the wiki at least reflected that. If there were links from there to the relevant mailing list threads, it would (1) warn people that this is a tough issue and (2) they might find some useful analysis/background in them.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Normally I'd try to organize some of that myself, but since I'm a lawyer for an organization that will likely consider some sort of geocoding at some point in the future I'm extremely reluctant to put words in anyone's mouth or in anyone's wiki.</div>
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Am 08.05.2014 01:27, schrieb Luis Villa:<br>
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> On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:54 AM, Michael Collinson <<a href="mailto:mike@ayeltd.biz" target="_blank">mike@ayeltd.biz</a><br>
</div><div>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mike@ayeltd.biz" target="_blank">mike@ayeltd.biz</a>>> wrote:<br>
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> We also have a number of issues that are very immature in terms of<br>
> constructing a useful guideline. What we have been lacking, with<br>
> some notable exceptions, is data users prepared to give a real use<br>
> case that they can share in a reasonable level of detail. Being<br>
> able to deal with concrete rather than myriad hypothetical cases<br>
> makes progress much faster. If you are user or potential user of OSM<br>
> data, do share real-world issues here. Or, contact us at<br>
</div>> <a href="mailto:legal@osmfoundation.org" target="_blank">legal@osmfoundation.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:legal@osmfoundation.org" target="_blank">legal@osmfoundation.org</a>>. We can<br>
<div>> handle commercial-in-confidence provided that the end result is<br>
> shareable publicly and applies to all equally within the parameters<br>
> of our license.<br>
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> I would suggest that writing down and working through even basic,<br>
> non-detailed use cases would likely help clarify a lot of the<br>
> Guidelines. Even if all they do is result in saying "it depends",<br>
> explaining what it depends on can be helpful to everyone.<br>
><br>
> For example, to kickstart the geocoding Guideline, it would probably be<br>
> great to start with some of the basic examples/use cases from the<br>
> mailing list discussion last year:<br>
> <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2013-June/007553.html" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2013-June/007553.html</a><br>
> and <a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2013-June/007554.html" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2013-June/007554.html</a><br>
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> Which isn't to say that people shouldn't describe detailed use cases :)<br>
> Just that a lot of progress could be made by walking through more basic<br>
> ones as well.<br>
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> Luis<br>
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