<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Tom<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Isn’t the problem one of imports? The debate on importing 200M points would be entertaining.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Steve</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 13, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Tom Lee <<a href="mailto:tlee@mapbox.com" class="">tlee@mapbox.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">> I think I agree with everything but this - I still don’t think it’s good enough. Of course, I also want it to be better - but that cogent argument thing you mentioned is missing either way.</span><br class=""><div class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">I and many others have been investing considerable energy into the OpenAddresses project because of ambiguity surround ODbL's implications for geocoding. OA is now over 200M address points collected from government sources under open licenses; OSM currently has 56M features with `addr:housenumber`.</span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">Obviously, not all of those 200M points belong in OSM. But many of them do. OpenAddresses does not have the toolchain or community needed to improve and maintain that data. Ultimately, those datasets should enter a collaborative space where they are accessible to and improvable by all. In the not-too-distant future, I suspect I will need to adjust a point when the local pizza place has their drone <a href="http://media.salon.com/2015/03/Screen-Shot-2015-03-11-at-10.59.45-AM-1280x808.png" class="">drop my order on the roof</a>. I want to do that work once in OSM, not a hundred times in a hundred different closed geo databases.</span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">OSM is already good enough to make geocoding services <i class="">better</i> for many geography types and locations. The plausible mechanism by which it becomes <i class="">self-sufficient</i> and then <i class="">great</i> at geocoding is through network effects and concrete needs, not through individual pizza purchasers complying with the Terms of Service printed on the box containing their dinner. </span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">To me, this means making sure OSM-enabled geocoding services can be constructed alongside proprietary data; and that their results can be used by enough people to make the project's improvement matter to them.</span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><br class=""></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Simon Poole <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:simon@poole.ch" target="_blank" class="">simon@poole.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="">Neither of the projects was scrapped because we <i class="">couldn’t</i>
use OSM for the project, but because we couldn’t determine IF
WE COULD use OSM for our particular uses.</div>
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And you or your legal department approached the licensor of the data
and asked for an opinion on your use of the data?<br class="">
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