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<p>Hi Joost</p>
<p>This is nearly a FAQ see for example this thread
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2015-July/008159.html">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2015-July/008159.html</a><br>
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If necessary I can draft a text for the case of deriving data by
tracing from imagery or similar sources.<br>
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Simon<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 12.08.2016 um 14:57 schrieb joost
schouppe:<br>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">Hi,</div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">I was recently made aware that the
Strava permission for mapping is not quite certain. I was
preparing a mail to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:maps@strava.com" target="_blank">maps@strava.com</a> ,
see below. But then I thought this wasn't really for me to do.
Any advice on content and procedure? </div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">Also, do we have an "official
document template" for data providers to sign to allow for use
in OSM. We made this in Dutch (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Licentie_GR_OSM.pdf"
target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/File:Licentie_GR_OSM.<wbr>pdf</a>),
for an organization that wanted to share data and understood
the implications (they just didn't want to licence their data
directly to competitors, but were willing to take the chance
that their competitors used OSM). If there isn't anything
else, I could translate that to English for future reference.
The templates I found are all questions, not answers.</div>
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<span style="font-size:12.8px">Hi,</span>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">Strava GPX heatmaps are becoming
more popular as a tool for OpenStreetMap, as your service
grows and grows. It is a pleasure for us to map paths, knowing
the data is going to be of immediate use to at least one of
your clients.</div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">However, using this data rests on
a shallow foundation. Our wiki pages [1] state that we can use
all the heatmaps for mapping purposes within OSM. There is no
formal documentation corroborating this, which means Strava
might have changed their minds on this without us knowing. We
do not want to take a risk with stuff like this. So please can
you formalize this permission - or the lack there of?</div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">Our current mapping seems to be
based only on an edit to our wiki [2] and a tweet [3], both by
the same former member of your team. But then this same person
implied [4] we can only use it within the Strava ID editor.</div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">We would love to keep improving
the map for your users, so we hope it is still OK. A mail to
me is of course not enough. The best would probably be a
clarification page on your website. Even better a signed
document stating the data can be used for OSM mapping, for us
to upload to our wiki pages for future reference.<br
clear="all">
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<div>[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Strava"
target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Strava</a></div>
<div>[2] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Strava&diff=1187453&oldid=1137980"
target="_blank">https://wiki.<wbr>openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?<wbr>title=Strava&diff=1187453&<wbr>oldid=1137980</a></div>
<div>[3] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://twitter.com/paulmach/status/455182880306905088"
target="_blank">https://twitter.com/<wbr>paulmach/status/<wbr>455182880306905088</a></div>
<div>[4] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/2716#issuecomment-121759915"
target="_blank">https://github.com/<wbr>openstreetmap/iD/issues/2716#<wbr>issuecomment-121759915</a></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Joost @</div>
<div dir="ltr"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/"
target="_blank">Openstreetmap</a> | <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://twitter.com/joostjakob"
target="_blank">Twitter</a> | <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603"
target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> | <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/members/97979802/"
target="_blank">Meetup</a></div>
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