<html><head></head><body>In other words, you would systematically use a copyrighted map as a source to enter data in OSM? <br>
Yves <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 25 août 2016 19:49:05 GMT+02:00, Bjoern Hassler <bjohas+mw@gmail.com> a écrit :<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear all,</div><div><br /></div>Is it permissible to use (copyrighted) maps to discover features on Bing (and trace those into OSM)? <div><br /></div><div>Suppose I have a list of GPS points of airports (one per airport), derived from publicly available paper (copyrighted) maps. Suppose there is no issue with sui generis rights in that list, but that there was no special permission to create that list (and thus the list is not rights cleared as such, but only used personally). I would think that:</div><div><div><br /></div><div>(1) I am not permitted to transfer that data straight to OSM, because I would effectively be tracing over those maps, which constitutes digitisation, and which is very likely not permitted. Do you agree? </div><div><br /></div><div>(2) However, I am allowed to use that list to systematically find airports on bing. I.e. use an editor to visit those GPS coordinates, and then see whether a runway is present in bing. If the runway is there
(and not in OSM already), I then manually trace over bing to add the runway; if nothing is there, I do nothing. </div><div><br /></div><div>I assume that (2) does not violate copyright, because I am only using the copyrighted information to find possible locations in bing, and then trace over bing. Do you agree?</div><div><br /></div><div>Two concerns: </div><div><br /></div><div>(A) While it does not violate copyright, maybe it violate other rights (sui generis rights associated with the original maps) or other terms of use (for the original map)? </div><div><br /></div><div>(B) My second concern is that (1) could be seen as a "limiting" case of (2): Suppose I don't trace over the runway, but I just enter a POI for airport. Suppose that often those POIs are close to the GPS point in the original map? Surely, that is effectively case (1), and would not be permitted? So (2) hinges on the fact that you see the object on bing, and then trace over it in
bing. </div><div><br /></div><div>(3) A final consideration: In (2), can I enter other public data into OSM (such as the name of the airport) that I derived from the map? The name as such is not copyrighted, but maybe there is a sui generis right in the collection of the names?</div><div><br /></div><div>Thanks for any light that you can shed on this! (Or any websites / documents with further information.)</div><div><br /></div><div>All the best,</div><div>Bjoern</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div></div></div>
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