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<p>As Robert has pointed out: the difference is between taking the
licence (OGL) as a licence to include stuff you can't licence :-)
:-) and the normal case were the Licensor typically would not
include material for which they don't have the necessary rights
except for honest mistakes and fraud. Naturally in both cases you
end up without a licence but there is a bit of a difference in
flavour. <br>
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<p>Now, I believe I can say this for the whole open data community,
we tend to be a bit happy go lucky about checking these things,
but I hope OSM is a bit better than most other projects.</p>
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Simon</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 09.09.2016 um 19:19 schrieb Luis
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<div>Can you elaborate on the second point, Simon? Are you
referring to the "third party rights the Information Provider
is not authorised to license" language? If so, I'm afraid
they've merely made explicit what is implicit in all licenses
- if there is third party material in a work that the open
licensor isn't authorized to license, then that material isn't
licensed to you, regardless of what the license says.<br>
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<p>The additional terms are "a bit of" a problem, however
might be surmountable if they are willing to give us a
statement specifically for the inclusion in OSM (along the
lines of that they agree that the inclusion of the data in
OpenStreetMap and distribution on terms of an open and
free licence fulfils the conditions).<br>
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<p>All variants of the OGL have a further issue in that you
actually have to verify that the Licensor has the
necessary rights to licence -all- the material in their
dataset to you on these terms. This might seem like a
theoretical hurdle invented by me, alas it is not, as some
of our UK colleagues can testify.</p>
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<div>Am 08.09.2016 um 21:05 schrieb Stewart Russell:<br>
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<div>Hi - this came up on talk-ca, and I want to
make sure I'm not being too restrictive. <br>
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Licence is a near clone of the UK OGL 1.0. Full
text is here: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://opendata.peelregion.ca/terms-of-use.aspx"
target="_blank">http://opendata.peelregion.ca/terms-of-use.aspx</a><br>
Like many Canadian municipalities, they've added
their own secret sauce, unfortunately. In the "You
must" section, they added:<br>
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<div style="margin-left:40px">[You must] ensure
that Your Use of the Information does not breach
or infringe upon any applicable laws<br>
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The OGL has automatic termination on breach, and
most versions don't include this clause.<br>
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Would this term potentially add complications for
anyone downstream using the data - say to plan a
public protest that authorities deem illegal? <br>
<br>
The Regional Municipality of Peel's open data
person is an active OSM participant, and they say
that it might take time for permission to use the
data under a more OSM-friendly library.<br>
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Your advice greatly appreciated.<br>
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