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<div style="16px" text-align="left">5 Jul 2019, 05:22 by yumean1119@gmail.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>The main point at issue is whether we are allowed to use official websites that provide primary information or not.<br></div><div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Some of us think that we can use data from official websites unless it is prohibited by their term of service.<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">I am not a lawyer, please correct me if I am wrong:<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">- facts are not copyrightable and from copyright view it does not matter whatever<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">one copied information from opening hours sign or from website<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">- collections of facts may have copyright or copyright like restrictions, copying<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">phone book or all branches of $CORPORATION may be not OK<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">- copying collections of facts is not OK also when distributed among many people<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">(that is why Wikidata is problematic - copying database one fact at time is not removing<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">sui generis database rights)<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div style="16px" text-align="left">is also against using official websites. His opinion is that we would able to map POIs without surveying on the ground at all<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">if it was OK to use data from websites. <br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">(example: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2019-June/010604.html">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2019-June/010604.html</a> )<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left"><div style="16px">1) Some survey is necessary to check whatever data is trustworthy and up to date<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">2) Even if true it would not influence copyright status of such data<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">3) Imports (mapping POIs without surveying) is acceptable in case of good data on a suitable<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">license and following import guidelines and there are cases of succesfull and useful imports<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">doing this.<br></div></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div style="16px" text-align="left">What do you think about the issue?<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">I am sure that mapping opening hours, name etc from signs is OK.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><div style="16px">I am sure that mapping opening hours, name etc from website of individual business is OK.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">I am sure that "we would able to map POIs without surveying on the ground at all" does not<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">matter as far as copyright status of such data is concerned.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">I am not sure is it OK to systematically copy such data from website that is basically a database.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><div style="16px">I am not sure is it OK to systematically copy such data from website that is basically a database,<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">with individuals copying one fact at time.<br></div></div></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div> </body>
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