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<div>Thanks for trying to ensure that everything was done right,<br></div><div>this puts you ahead of some major companies :)<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Jan 5, 2021, 22:37 by legal-talk@openstreetmap.org:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>Thanks; that's a very helpful example. I knew I was overthinking it, and while yes none of this probably matters in practice for my map to my house I wanted to ensure I understood how it worked if I were to end up doing something more complicated one day.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Much appreciated,<br></div><div>Peter<br></div><div><br></div><div>On 1/5/2021 4:05 PM, Kathleen Lu via legal-talk wrote:<br></div><blockquote><div>You can publicly disclaim rights in the parts you contributed, while<br></div><div>indicating the required OSM attribution.<br></div><div>Think of it this way: If you were to get a bunch of CC-BY photographs<br></div><div>and put them together in a slideshow, you could, in theory, add a<br></div><div>requirement for attribution for yourself, for ordering the slides in a<br></div><div>nice way. But you can't say the slideshow is all CC0 or public domain,<br></div><div>because then you'd be erasing the CC-BY license and attribution on the<br></div><div>original photographs. You'd say something like, "original photographs<br></div><div>CC-BY..." You could add "I disclaim any rights in my ordering of the<br></div><div>photos."<br></div><div><br></div><div>If this really is a map of directions to your house though, I'd say<br></div><div>you're overthinking this. Who'd want to copy it anyway?<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 8:39 AM Peter Cooper Jr. via legal-talk<br></div><div><legal-talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote:<br></div><blockquote><div>Thank you. Maybe I'm just being too picky and not really understanding<br></div><div>the freedom that OSM gives, but with regards to the license I put my own<br></div><div>"Produced Work" under (assuming that's the term for this taking of the<br></div><div>default tiles and then modifying them, or even if I just use Maperative<br></div><div>or QGIS to build a map based on the OSM data): As there's an attribution<br></div><div>requirement I don't think I can just put it into the public domain,<br></div><div>right? Does that mean that I need to either use something like CC-BY or<br></div><div>put together my own statement (my own license?) about how one can reuse<br></div><div>my image as long as credit is still given to the OpenStreetMap project?<br></div><div>Or can I put the image itself under CC0 and yet still make it clear (by<br></div><div>that link to the OSM copyright page) that attribution is still required<br></div><div>since that's a requirement of the underlying data rather than the image<br></div><div>itself?<br></div><div><br></div><div>If you can't tell, this is making my head spin, and perhaps I'm just<br></div><div>overcomplicating things as I am wont to do.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,<br></div><div>Peter<br></div><div><br></div><div>On 1/4/2021 2:19 PM, Kathleen Lu via legal-talk wrote:<br></div><blockquote><div>1) That text is fine. Please link to https://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright<br></div><div>2) It sounds like all you did was personal styling, as your actual<br></div><div>improvements to the area were made in iD, so I would say no, it's not<br></div><div>a Derivative Database and there's no share-alike obligation.<br></div><div><br></div><div>On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 6:54 PM Peter Cooper Jr. via legal-talk<br></div><div><legal-talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote:<br></div><blockquote><div>Hello! I tried asking my question on the Q&A Forum<br></div><div><https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/78020/licensecrediting-my-edited-export-of-osm><br></div><div>but didn't really get an answer in the past couple weeks, so I figured<br></div><div>I'd try here and maybe someone here can help me. I think that this<br></div><div>should be simple, but the more I read through the copyright pages the<br></div><div>more confused I get. It feels like how this all works should be obvious<br></div><div>to me but I'm just not understanding and want to make sure I'm doing<br></div><div>this right.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I'm working on making a map for directions to my house. I went to<br></div><div>OpenStreetMap.org, went to an area containing my house and the major<br></div><div>roads around it, and exported a box of it to an SVG file using the<br></div><div>"Share" functionality. I then opened that SVG in Inkscape and made some<br></div><div>modifications, like removing things I didn't need and adding more<br></div><div>specific labeling around the important landmarks on the way to my house.<br></div><div>For the most part these landmarks (road names, that a building where one<br></div><div>turns is made of brick, etc.) are in the underlying data but weren't<br></div><div>visible on the map I exported. And then I added a marker indicating my<br></div><div>house.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I want to post this edited SVG file on my web site alongside some<br></div><div>text-based directions I already have and wrote myself. While I can find<br></div><div>information on requirements if I use the underlying data myself to make<br></div><div>a map, or if I just present the standard tiles directly, I can't find<br></div><div>information on the case of starting with the standard tiles but then<br></div><div>modifying them.<br></div><div><br></div><div>1) What credit text do I need to put on (or next to) the map? Is it just<br></div><div>"Base map and data from OpenStreetMap and OpenStreetMap Foundation" like<br></div><div>if I was using the tiles directly, or do I need to make clearer somehow<br></div><div>which data is from OpenStreetMap and which edits I made?<br></div><div><br></div><div>2) Is there some license I need to publish this completed SVG file under<br></div><div>to comply with share-alike rules? I'm certainly fine with anyone using<br></div><div>the work I did, but I'm assuming (since I don't own all the data) I<br></div><div>can't just put the image into the public domain and be done with it? A<br></div><div>lot of the "derived database" stuff seems to assume you're doing<br></div><div>something more complicated than I am of just annotating the map image<br></div><div>which is part of what's confusing me.<br></div><div><br></div><div>While I don't think it matters for my specific questions, before making<br></div><div>the export I have made some fixes to the area near my house in the<br></div><div>standard iD editor to make the map more complete and accurate near me.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!<br></div><div>--<br></div><div>Peter<br></div></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><div><br></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>legal-talk mailing list<br></div><div>legal-talk@openstreetmap.org<br></div><div>https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div> </body>
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