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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Jan 28, 2022, 23:26 by osm@stephans-server.de:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>Hello Mateusz,<br></div><div><br></div><div>On 28.01.2022 09:13, Mateusz Konieczny via legal-talk wrote:<br></div><blockquote><div>OSM Wiki has over 20 000 files without stated license, many of them are copyright<br></div><div>violations or files on licenses requiring attribution but missing it.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>How did you come to this conclusion and the number of media files?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Wiki lists less then 2.000 files.<br></div><div><br></div><div>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Media_without_a_license<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">See say<br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UncategorizedFiles&limit=2000&offset=18000" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UncategorizedFiles&limit=2000&offset=18000</a><br></div><div dir="auto">(note: offset in the link may be needed to change in future as number of such files<br></div><div dir="auto">drops down)<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Your link goes to files that are explicitly marked as missing license<br></div><div dir="auto">with <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Unknown">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Unknown</a> .<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This link lists also ones without any category at all.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In addition there are files with some category and without any license being stated <br></div><div dir="auto">such as<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:New_Microsoft_Edge_Icon.svg" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:New_Microsoft_Edge_Icon.svg</a><br></div><div dir="auto">(I just removed from it claim that Edge logo is a file where anyone can<br></div><div dir="auto">"use it <b>for any purpose, provided that</b> the copyright holder is properly attributed"<br></div><div dir="auto">)<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Google_Chrome_icon.png" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Google_Chrome_icon.png</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Google_Translate_Logo.png">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Google_Translate_Logo.png</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Politecnico_Milano_logo.jpg">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Politecnico_Milano_logo.jpg</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">(sorry for just icons, but known problematic files deserving deletion<br></div><div dir="auto">get marked with deletion template while copyrighted icons are another<br></div><div dir="auto">case which needs some handling, almost certainly distinct from deleting<br></div><div dir="auto">used ones)<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">For list of deletions and requested deletions see<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&page=&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&page=&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=</a> <br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Labelled_for_deletion">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Labelled_for_deletion</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">though most cases is housekeeping, not copyright violations<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>I think, that based on the history of the wiki and it's CC-BY-SA that most of the uploaded content was actually intended to be exactly that.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">The problem is that there is substantial amount of files where someone uploaded<br></div><div dir="auto">random file from Internet, Google Street View imagery, Bing imagery, other unfree<br></div><div dir="auto">imagery etc etc and not even mentioned it in description or edit comment.<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div>Was it really clear from the beginning that all uploaded media need a dedicated copyright statement? Potentially they are left-overs from that time.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Just picking a file of this list which looks obviously genuine and intentional, the following is an example:<br></div><div><br></div><div>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Alen_self_photo_192x192.jpg<br></div><div><br></div><div>File is only used on a user page and uploaded by the same user stating it is a self photo.<br></div><div><br></div><div>If it is important to have an additional note on each upload, we have to make sure that this is enforced on new media upload. But why not assume that old one was correctly uploaded as CC-BY-SA?<br></div><div><br></div><div>"Content is available under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license unless otherwise noted.". It is not noted otherwise, so it is CC.<br></div></blockquote><div dir="auto">Yeah, that is problem and just deleting all images by inactive authors would be likely<br></div><div dir="auto">not justified.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As mentioned in the linked discussion there are plans to probably mark ones which<br></div><div dir="auto">were clearly or extremely likely made by uploaders and not replaceable as<br></div><div dir="auto">"assumed CC SA 2.0" or similar. <br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Not entirely sure is it a good idea, definitely should not be applied to recently<br></div><div dir="auto">uploaded images and cases where user is still active and selectively not responding.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div> </body>
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